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Darksbane0 Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 Current stats: Website average monthly unique hits: 20K Monthly Bandwidth usage: <500 Gig Pages served per month: 600K IPB average users online: 50 including guests IPB members: 2100 Has IPB, IPC, Gallery, and Blog My current quote for VPS (site5.com) is $53 a month for: CPU 2x 2.93 GHz, Memory 756 MB, 35GB disk space, 600 Gig bandwidth. This is about $20 a month more than I'd like to spend but I'm willing to go with it if I have to. Does anyone else know of any good reliable VPS service that could run an IPB like mine but be any cheaper?
Royzee Posted January 23, 2012 Posted January 23, 2012 I pay a buck less for more, and don't think your disk space ( and maybe ram ) will be enough. Quad core 2.67GHz CPU Bandwidth 2 terrabytes Disk space 120GB Memory 2048MB ( 4096 burst ) cPanel/WHM Unmanaged of course with choice of OS for $52, or $40 if you don't want cPanel. Can't give you the host here, as it is against IPS policy. You can PM me though.
Darksbane0 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Posted January 23, 2012 I didn't realize that discussing this stuff was against the rules. If anyone has any suggestions please PM them to me. I would like to hear though what people would recommend for specs for a VPS for me given my stats above. Prices vary widely it seems and I want to make sure I get something that is going to perform well. So what would everyone suggest for recommended and minimum CPU/Memory for running my install of IPB?
Robulosity2 Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 Please visit webhostingtalk.com to find out information on quality VPS hosts, and any deals they may be offering
Chel Posted January 26, 2012 Posted January 26, 2012 I recently migrated my 500 member forum to a VPS, 512mb. It was completely unusable, so I ended up cancelling the VPS and restoring the database at the shared host. For your active members 768mb will not be enough, I would say.
Royzee Posted January 26, 2012 Posted January 26, 2012 I recently migrated my 500 member forum to a VPS, 512mb. It was completely unusable, so I ended up cancelling the VPS and restoring the database at the shared host. For your active members 768mb will not be enough, I would say. The problem was you selected a VPS package too small for even a small forum. Check the specks on mine that I posted above. If you have 500 members you need a VPS with 1024MB of ram or more.As you found out, a small VPS package is no better than shared.
Dmacleo Posted January 26, 2012 Posted January 26, 2012 fwiw site5 is excellent to deal with. if you go with them let me know and I will give refer link :) :)
Robulosity2 Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 Again you cannot discuss or promote other hosts on these forums. Doing so will likely result in the topic locked
Robulosity2 Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 Also processor speed is irrelevant on a vps, first unless you run cat /proc/cpuinfo you won't know how many cores you have. Secondly you have no idea how much of those cores they allow you to use. 8 @ 2.93 is useless if you only get 5% of it.
AndyF Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 Again you cannot discuss or promote other hosts on these forums. Doing so will likely result in the topic locked Yes. As I put in another topic a few days ago, a general discussion is fine as long as it does not turn into a list of hosting suggestions as at that stage I'd be compelled to close the topic.EDIT... Moving to 'Server Management, Resources, Optimization' forum
Royzee Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 Also processor speed is irrelevant on a vps, first unless you run cat /proc/cpuinfo you won't know how many cores you have. Secondly you have no idea how much of those cores they allow you to use. 8 @ 2.93 is useless if you only get 5% of it. True. VPS hosts can, and sometimes are, just as guilty of overselling as shared hosts. And webhostingtalk.com can be a useful check, but I've found they are not always accurate. For myself I think a host that guarantees enough ram, and generous storage is less likely to oversell their VPS. As well if they don't have a 30 day or less money back guarantee I would never start with them.
Grumpy Posted January 29, 2012 Posted January 29, 2012 True. VPS hosts can, and sometimes are, just as guilty of overselling as shared hosts. And webhostingtalk.com can be a useful check, but I've found they are not always accurate. For myself I think a host that guarantees enough ram, and generous storage is less likely to oversell their VPS. As well if they don't have a 30 day or less money back guarantee I would never start with them. Even guranteed ram can be oversold as it's a matter of calculation. No one's ever going to use their max ram all the time, thus an overhead of leftover ram always exists, therefore a room to resell. The storage amount should not be a factor when making this choice of good vs bad vps. The biggest difference will either come from amount of oversell (storage is very easy to oversell) and what type of disk they use. If they use a 2TB SATA vs 300GB SAS drives, the SAS is probably way better for you, but you'll get lot less storage.
Darksbane0 Posted February 1, 2012 Author Posted February 1, 2012 Also processor speed is irrelevant on a vps, first unless you run cat /proc/cpuinfo you won't know how many cores you have. Secondly you have no idea how much of those cores they allow you to use. 8 @ 2.93 is useless if you only get 5% of it. Is it useless or is it just really hard to verify? I've found a few different options but processor speed and number of cores tend to be low on some of the more affoardable ones. One host I found is offering a pretty good deal but I'm not sure on the CPU if it is good or not, others don't even list the processor speed. It is really confusing when trying to compare prices for this stuff.
Grumpy Posted February 1, 2012 Posted February 1, 2012 Is it useless or is it just really hard to verify? I've found a few different options but processor speed and number of cores tend to be low on some of the more affoardable ones. One host I found is offering a pretty good deal but I'm not sure on the CPU if it is good or not, others don't even list the processor speed. It is really confusing when trying to compare prices for this stuff. CPU, is for the most part irrelevant in a VPS. Why? Most websites are not bottlenecked on CPU, it's usually first the disk, then ram, then cpu. Though, IPB does tend to be CPU heavy, but it's still irrelevant because that means other customers aren't hogging the CPU and you'll still get your room to run IPB. Second reason is because you can't really use all of the CPU's power. They could be running on a beast of a machine but if it's split 1000 ways, it's worse than a low end dedi that's split 10 ways for example (assuming the "beast" isn't a million dollar one). Some hosts put limitations on CPU usage, some do "equal share" which pretty much means just use it. But again, this is meaningless because you're not going to use it to the max and you're likely not going to run into cpu bottleneck. But, you should try to avoid certain cpus in a vps environments like atoms, celerons... etc which rather under-perform on a per clock basis. But most VPSes sell a fairly good machine and split it in high # rather than a small crappy machine and make a few split because it's simply more economical and happier customers.
Moeru Wa Posted February 4, 2012 Posted February 4, 2012 Board, Content, Gallery, Chat, Calendar Members : 6,000 Post : 90,000 Users Online : 70 members+150 guests ( 15 mins ) 1gb RAM on VPS enough? :o
Grumpy Posted February 5, 2012 Posted February 5, 2012 Board, Content, Gallery, Chat, Calendar Members : 6,000 Post : 90,000 Users Online : 70 members+150 guests ( 15 mins ) 1gb RAM on VPS enough? :o Probably runs... but I'd suggest aiming a bit higher. Or you can try it and see how it goes. You can quite easily ask the provider to increase your limits.
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