Moderating in IPB

[sunrisecc]

I use the system to send an email notifying the reasons for any ban as part of the banning technque. WRT not always showing it publicly, there are privacy concerns which to you may not be important but is to my board. The point is that there are two available methods which negates your view that it cannot be done.

Boards have different neeeds and IPB allows for both methods.

[Jakeomatic]

I use the system to send an email notifying the reasons for any ban as part of the banning technque. WRT not always showing it publicly, there are privacy concerns which to you may not be important but is to my board. The point is that there are two available methods which negates your view that it cannot be done.

Boards have different neeeds and IPB allows for both methods.

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. This doesn't have much to do with privacy. Members (the banned ones) should be shown the reason why they got banned from the board when they visit it, not some ugly error message. They should also be moved to the correct usergroup (VIA WARN PANEL or even automated as an option).

Look at this from a moderators point of view. This can't be done without ACP access, so no, it doesn't allow for both methods how it should (even though the alternate method doesn't really make sense to me).

People need to understand that once their small boards grow up, they're going to have to have moderators handle the moderating. Mods should be able to handle taking care of members to their fullest ability without the need for admins. At all.

[Francismori7_2]

Your forums must be really small for such a feature that you want. Let me tell you, displaying somebody as banned in a topic is only going to lead to trolls burning the place up.

[Jakeomatic]

Your forums must be really small for such a feature that you want. Let me tell you, displaying somebody as banned in a topic is only going to lead to trolls burning the place up.

That isn't remotely what I want. I'm saying when the banned member visits the website, instead of the usual "Error you do not have permission" etc message, they shown the reason banned and length instead.

And by showing other members they are banned all I mean is moving them to the banned usergroup when banned. Mods can't do that.

My request is a lot more reasonable than you think.

[Francismori7_2]

That isn't remotely what I want. I'm saying when the banned member visits the website, instead of the usual "Error you do not have permission" etc message, they shown the reason banned and length instead.

And by showing other members they are banned all I mean is moving them to the banned usergroup when banned. Mods can't do that.

My request is a lot more reasonable than you think.

The error, I cannot agree more. It's confusing. Although, the banned membergroup is only another membergroup, like any other. Moving people from/to groups is an administrative task, and it shouldn't be carried by moderators, from my point of view.

Members do not have anything related to the banned member, why should they know that they're banned? No reason, only leads to "WHY IS HE BANNED?????????666" and much more spam.

[Jakeomatic]

The error, I cannot agree more. It's confusing. Although, the banned membergroup is only another membergroup, like any other. Moving people from/to groups is an administrative task, and it shouldn't be carried by moderators, from my point of view.

Members do not have anything related to the banned member, why should they know that they're banned? No reason, only leads to "WHY IS HE BANNED?????????666" and much more spam.

Imo it's necessary, like if members are conducting a transaction and one member disappears without any knowledge of where they went. I mean, even in general when people are in communities and someone disappears I think it is a good idea to let members know that someone is gone (simply by subtley changing their group. They don't have to let the whole world know).

[bfarber]

I'm surprised at how much some of you care about the members you've just banned from your site. :blink: Aren't we talking about people you've kicked out of your site? Why do you care what they see when they visit (so long as they're being restricted)? :unsure:

That said, I agree presenting a message or reason would be a nice feature addition. I do not agree that moderators should be able to change people's group, however. At least within the current framework/infrastructure of the software. Group changing is an admin duty in my opinion.

[Jakeomatic]

I'm surprised at how much some of you care about the members you've just banned from your site. :blink: Aren't we talking about people you've kicked out of your site? Why do you care what they see when they visit (so long as they're being restricted)? :unsure:

That said, I agree presenting a message or reason would be a nice feature addition. I do not agree that moderators should be able to change people's group, however. At least within the current framework/infrastructure of the software. Group changing is an admin duty in my opinion.

Well, I think it's a good idea to be professional even to people that have broken the rules.

I think you're right about group changing, but maybe there could be an option to make it so that members are automatically moved into a banned usergroup when suspended/banned via warn panel. I think that'd be a nice addition.

Edit: And maybe you guys could add the option for warns to decrease over time :)

[sudo]

I do not agree that moderators should be able to change people's group, however. At least within the current framework/infrastructure of the software. Group changing is an admin duty in my opinion.

Why not allow admins to set the group to be moved too which at least enforces some sort of control/standard?

[bfarber]

Why not allow admins to set the group to be moved too which at least enforces some sort of control/standard?

We have two banning approaches in IPB 3.

1) There is the old-fashioned setup: moving the user to a group that does not have access to view the board (i.e. a "banned" group).
2) You can ban an individual account with changing their membergroup.

Some users prefer approach #1, while some prefer approach #2. The benefit to approach #2 is that it does not broadcast to regular members that the user is banned, information that generally should be kept between the site staff and the user that has been breaking the rules. That said, I'm not really opposed to supporting both methods (somehow), but we've really seen very few requests to support banning method #1 in the warn panel to date.

[Jakeomatic]

We have two banning approaches in IPB 3.

1) There is the old-fashioned setup: moving the user to a group that does not have access to view the board (i.e. a "banned" group).

2) You can ban an individual account with changing their membergroup.

Some users prefer approach #1, while some prefer approach #2. The benefit to approach #2 is that it does not broadcast to regular members that the user is banned, information that generally should be kept between the site staff and the user that has been breaking the rules. That said, I'm not really opposed to supporting both methods (somehow), but we've really seen very few requests to support banning method #1 in the warn panel to date.

Yes, although it seems like option #1 isn't very viable due to required acp perms. It would be nice to see at least the option for board moderators.

Thanks.

[Dean1]

Well,

I am a S-Mod and I/we would really need a ban member system instead of the warning points system.

Or at least a "Custom warning" with "Custom warning points", "Custom punishment".

The mod should be able to write the reason instead of "Custom warning" being showed.

Kind Regards

[Dean1]

Also the banned user should be moved into the Banned usergroup.

A S-Mod should have more permissions im general though.

We have only an admin and he cannot be active because of some reasons.

So waiting 1-3days for him is not the best solution in my opinion.

The admin should have more options to give the S-Mods more permissions without ACP access.

Kind Regards

[Mark]

Well,

I am a S-Mod and I/we would really need a ban member system instead of the warning points system.

Or at least a "Custom warning" with "Custom warning points", "Custom punishment".

The mod should be able to write the reason instead of "Custom warning" being showed.

Kind Regards

That feature exists, the admin just needs to turn it on :)

[Dean1]

That feature exists, the admin just needs to turn it on :smile:

Could you please tell me how?

Because I've asked the admin already but he said he cannot so I guess he just don't know how.

Thanks!

Kind Regards

[Mark H]

Could you please tell me how?

Because I've asked the admin already but he said he cannot so I guess he just don't know how.

Thanks!

Kind Regards

This is the Feedback section.

The site owner would need to login and post that question in an appropriate support area, or add you as an Alternate Contact to their account so that you can do so.

Thank you.

[Dean1]

This is the Feedback section.

The site owner would need to login and post that question in an appropriate support area, or add you as an Alternate Contact to their account so that you can do so.

Thank you.

He cannot because he got the license key as a gift from a friend amd he hasn't a client account.

So I guess no support and I'll have to search for another forum to get support.

Well.

Thanks anyways.

Regards.

[Mark H]

In that case, your friend's site is quite probably in violation of the license terms.

The license itself can be transferred via the Client Area, but the Key for the license is tied to the purchase, and the Key itself can't be given as a "gift".

You may wish to inform your Admin. We're happy to assist with a legitimate transfer of the purchase.