[REQ] Lower Price

[Keith J. Kacin]

I suspect most people with these packages will attempt to gain support, thus delaying support to customers who paid for support.

You would be surprised how many people who use the unsupported IPB 1.3 and below call for support.

[Charles]

We did an unsupported license once for a special case (it was never offered for sale on the site) and we would get calls:

Them: "I know I have an unsupported license but I have just one quick question."

Us: "Sir, your license is not supported so we can't help you."

Them: "But it's just one question."

Us: "But you specifically didn't want support when you bought it."

Then of course it goes down hill from there and ends up wasting our techs time from people did pay for support etc etc etc... unsupported just doesn't really work.

[Strange_Will]

Ah, I just feel that some people that want forums, would gladly go for the $75 option to not have PHPBB (which in my opinion has the same support as a "supportless" IPB... community support over at IZE :P) but $150 is quite a bit when they wont be upgrading any time soon, and don't really have the knowledge to be dealing with you guys directly anyway. :P

I've been setting up a few sites and such, and have been like "well I know $150 is A LOT, so it's a later option when your forum really picks up!"

:P


Sorry to hear one idiot has to screw it up for the rest of us. ;)

[cinek]

I'm happy to pay $150 because not every kid can afford it, and if you put your forum up it doesn't look just like phpbb......(I hate phpbb :P)

[Quillz]

I'm happy to pay $150 because not every kid can afford it, and if you put your forum up it doesn't look just like phpbb......(I hate phpbb :P )

Instead it looks just like every other IPB out there. :devil:

[BRamburn]

Call it coincidence, but Garrett Bean is the exact same name of the guy that nulled all of the software as shown here...

Funny, that :blink:

Mod edit: Please do not link to pirated software.

Now we need to beat them up :P

Well here we have a nuller saying he'd buy it if it was a lower price.

Sometimes lowering prices gains profit (don't hurt me!)

Well, i used a nulled board before purchasing IPB as a full license. And just when I bought it 2-3 days later i got reported and I showed the guy who tried to report me that it was legit and he shut his mouth up :P
ATM i got 2 ipb license because ipb owns.

I would be personally annoyed if I had to pay $150.00 for a standard license, because frankly $150.00 is a lot of money for forum software. Most people would say I am crazy for paying that for a forum software, along with web hosting, and IDM prices tacked on too. But everyone has there "thing" mine is forums, gaming, and computer stuff, other people are into skate boarding, snow sports, or arts stuff.

But to my point, if you look at other things you buy IPB is really not out of place. It just depends on if you are really going to use it, and if you have the money to buy it. So its like getting a new skate board or pair of ski's. (just for people that aren't open minded )

My second point is that somethings are priced wrong here. IP. Blog is not worth $50.00 in my mind. Personally it should be around $35.00 USD. Because its a blog CVCJ has the same thing except its free and different. Although IP Blog is really nice, and cool, its not worth $50.00 unless you have extra cash to spend on it. Another things is IDM, should not be $50.00 and $30.00 renewal... it should be $45.00 and $20.00 USD renewal. Or something like that... it does not make sense, its a downloads manager great piece of software but $50.00 is not too pricey but not too steep. Because until I had $50.00 in PayPal I was not touching it because it was a little out of my budget.

IP. Gallery is priced perfectly fine, and you get what you pay for. IP. Blog could go lower, and IDM maybe a tiny bit lower, but really makes no difference. Just my opinions from a student with limited income. :P

hmmm vb owned licensed cost $160 for 1 time price of purchase with $30 for 1 year support. And ipb is $150~ and $25~ for support + upgrade for another 6months. I see that both prices are fair and i understand myself that ips staff needs to make a living and to continue to improve ip.board and other products. ATM in this world where money motivates 99% of the population it is fair to say that a continous flow of money motivates anyone. Whereas if most of the customers kept purchasing the lifetime license after a while you would see that most of them would drop the upgrade and support yearly fee as they would have become knowledged to the errors and would know how to fix them. Thus ending the flow of money to ips's staff, to force them to take on a second job.

The management folks (PPE"s for you old timers here) have everything priced fairly (obviously my opinion). If IPB was a piece of crap, then yes, it's over priced. But it's not a piece of crap. It has a huge following as well and by virtue of that, it has a solid name and more importantly - a trustworthy name.

I'm probably not right in saying this (whether it's true or not), but sometimes you need to set a somewhat seemingly higher price in order to attract "better" client's. If IPB sold for $39.95, then every kid on the block out there would buy it... and then not have a single clue as to what to do with it. It could very easily become a logistics (i.e. support) nightmare. Charge backs would go crazy, people would scream bloody murder 'cause "I didn't know I would need a host that has PHP/MySQL!", etc, etc.

I liken it to when I lived on the tropical island of Guam... I initially lived in a very affordable apartment. The problem with that (with me being a senior person) was that I was surrounded by a plethora of MUCH younger (and junior in rank) sailors - many of whom worked for me. It was a nightmare. When my condo contract expired, I chose to move to a much more expensive place simply because I knew that if I could barely afford it, then the junior enlisted folks wouldn't stand a chance. It was a great move and helped me keep my sanity.

It humors me when some folks complain about prices being too high. Sure, there are things in this world that I wish were cheaper (the median price for a house here in San Diego is upwards of $600,000). I'll never be able to afford that - so I will simply have to keep on renting (or move out of the state, which I don't want to do). However, IPS is a solid company and they've set their prices. If folks aren't happy with the prices or it's too expensive, there are other alternatives... but as I always say in these types of situations: You get what you pay for.

I'm sure those that have paid for a license, regardless of the type of license they purchased, are overall happy with their decision. :)

I like to be feel special, especially when i have something that newbies doesn't have it feels good.

There are different markets out there, and different forum software is aimed at different markets. We think IPB is priced competitively for the market we aim at Of course, it's not going to be right for everyone, that's understandable.

let me guess which market:
Everything else from annoying dumbass that waste time and oxygen :P

It still stands that I wish I could get a "this is your package, no support, no upgrades" for cheap ($75?), and pay for upgrades later (It's easier to convince someone to go IPB if you can start them out cheap anyway )

Again this is stupid, so you are going to pay $75 2-3 times a year for each upgrade? 2.2.0, 2.2.1, 2.2.2, (hopefully) 3.0.0 ??

We did an unsupported license once for a special case (it was never offered for sale on the site) and we would get calls:

Them: "I know I have an unsupported license but I have just one quick question."

Us: "Sir, your license is not supported so we can't help you."

Them: "But it's just one question."

Us: "But you specifically didn't want support when you bought it."

Then of course it goes down hill from there and ends up wasting our techs time from people did pay for support etc etc etc... unsupported just doesn't really work.

You know you should have a warning saying that if they do not have a license the operator can hang the phone up, that would really poke them in the eye. Or you could have them automated system of verification where you as the person to input their invoice id if they know it and they could jump the line ?

Ah, I just feel that some people that want forums, would gladly go for the $75 option to not have PHPBB (which in my opinion has the same support as a "supportless" IPB... community support over at IZE ) but $150 is quite a bit when they wont be upgrading any time soon, and don't really have the knowledge to be dealing with you guys directly anyway.

I've been setting up a few sites and such, and have been like "well I know $150 is A LOT, so it's a later option when your forum really picks up!"

:P

Sorry to hear one idiot has to screw it up for the rest of us.

phpbb sort of sucks i hate the way it is code, same as Vbulletin. $150 is enough if you want to have a really really top of the market software. NOrmally if you want your site to succeed you need to spend a lto.

I'm happy to pay $150 because not every kid can afford it, and if you put your forum up it doesn't look just like phpbb......(I hate phpbb :P )

good

[cinek]

Instead it looks just like every other IPB out there. :devil:

yeah it does :P but there is more of phpbb around then IPB :devil:

[Strange_Will]

Everything else from annoying dumbass that waste time and oxygen :P

Again this is stupid, so you are going to pay $75 2-3 times a year for each upgrade? 2.2.0, 2.2.1, 2.2.2, (hopefully) 3.0.0 ??

No, you'd do like anyone else does when their upgrades run out and buy an upgrade package when you want them.

[BRamburn]

No, you'd do like anyone else does when their upgrades run out and buy an upgrade package when you want them.

it's not a question of if I want them but I have to have the updates to keep the security issues fixed, features improved, less bugs.
I rather pay my update fee every 6 months where I know I will get at least 1-3 updates.

[Strange_Will]

it's not a question of if I want them but I have to have the updates to keep the security issues fixed, features improved, less bugs.

I rather pay my update fee every 6 months where I know I will get at least 1-3 updates.

Last time I checked security fixes aren't part of the upgrade package, you can get them upgrade package or not, being as they're security bugs.