Beta 9 is now on the table!

[Gary]

v5 2025.

I’m sure it will be upon us very soon. 🤓

[PanSevence]

1 hour ago, Gary said:

v5 2025.

I’m sure it will be upon us very soon. 🤓

Looking at how many issues have been reported, it seems like we'll get beta 10, right?

[Marc]

19 hours ago, PanSevence said:

Looking at how many issues have been reported, it seems like we'll get beta 10, right?

I would certainly think so 🙂 

[Feneroin]

5 hours ago, Marc said:

I would certainly think so 🙂 

Soo. Tomorrow or thursday? 🤪

[EliasM]

On 1/5/2025 at 4:10 PM, PanSevence said:

Looking at how many issues have been reported, it seems like we'll get beta 10, right?

They are trying to make beta10 the last beta, but I'm not sure about that due to the amount of bugs😮‍💨

[Marc]

35 minutes ago, EliasM said:

They are trying to make beta10 the last beta, but I'm not sure about that due to the amount of bugs😮‍💨

We are? Awesome! Thanks for letting us know 🙂 

[SoloInter]

You should know also that you want to open cloud features to self hosted clients. 🤝

[Marc]

3 minutes ago, SoloInter said:

You should know also that you want to open cloud features to self hosted clients. 🤝

Nice try 😄 

[EliasM]

23 minutes ago, Marc said:

We are? Awesome! Thanks for letting us know 🙂 

Mr. Matt hinted at this as he explained that the final version is very close, so my guess is supposed to be correct😂

[Paras]

5 hours ago, EliasM said:

Mr. Matt hinted at this as he explained that the final version is very close, so my guess is supposed to be correct😂

That's an official statement, so the final version will be out soon. Soon means around 1 or 2 weeks.

[SeNioR-]

Guys, are you serious? It's better to wait longer for a stable product than to get it now in a buggy form. Look how many bugs were reported in a week.

[dmaidon1]

11 minutes ago, SeNioR- said:

Guys, are you serious? It's better to wait longer for a stable product than to get it now in a buggy form. Look how many bugs were reported in a week.

I rather see 10 or more betas than upgrade my forums with a very buggy product.

[SeNioR-]

Just now, dmaidon1 said:

I rather see 10 or more betas than upgrade my forums with a very buggy product.

Exactly. @Matt is currently on a coffee detox so his productivity has dropped a bit, but expect more betas in the coming weeks.

[EliasM]

18 minutes ago, SeNioR- said:

Guys, are you serious? It's better to wait longer for a stable product than to get it now in a buggy form. Look how many bugs were reported in a week.

As you can see, it has been more than two weeks and we will enter the third week and there has not been a beta version yet, so they are trying to fix all or most of the bugs before another beta, 

I appreciate their work and I prefer to wait a month until a stable beta is released

44 minutes ago, Paras said:

That's an official statement, so the final version will be out soon. Soon means around 1 or 2 weeks.

That's impossible, soon means about two months.

[Paras]

15 minutes ago, dmaidon1 said:

I rather see 10 or more betas than upgrade my forums with a very buggy product.

But they were confident in the final product, which is why the statement came out.

[SeNioR-]

16 minutes ago, EliasM said:

I appreciate their work and I prefer to wait a month until a stable beta is released

Thank you. That's exactly what I mean.

Please take into account that we have just welcomed the new year and before that we had Christmas. During this period, the IPS team always takes a day off to spend this time with family and loved ones.

Understand that money is not the most important thing in life, Invison Community is just a business, there are important and more important things. Personally, I would rather wait a few months for a polished product than receive it now and install a patch or security patch every few days.

Whatever IPS decides, I appeal to you to respect their decision.

[Paras]

9 minutes ago, SeNioR- said:

Thank you. That's exactly what I mean.

Please take into account that we have just welcomed the new year and before that we had Christmas. During this period, the IPS team always takes a day off to spend this time with family and loved ones.

Understand that money is not the most important thing in life, Invison Community is just a business, there are important and more important things. Personally, I would rather wait a few months for a polished product than receive it now and install a patch or security patch every few days.

Whatever IPS decides, I appeal to you to respect their decision.

I went out of my way to buy this software, so it's only natural that I'm looking forward to the promised final version. I've had experience with other software forums before, at least two.

[Gary]

I'm sure you can agree there is definitely confidence in v5 from the team; bugs are being fixed, and the software is receiving regular beta updates and patches. New bugs will always find a way to poke their heads out even if a product is as perfect as it is.

We only see a very small snippet of all the time and work involved in releasing new beta versions and fixing bugs, not to mention the time involved actioning fixes and making sure it doesn't break something else. This is a major release and as such requires a lot more time and care before jumping the gun.

[SeNioR-]

Guys, as Gary (former employee) wrote, IC5 introduces many new improvements, from back-end to front-end, it is worth waiting a little longer for the stable version, believe me, I have been operating with IC since 2013 and none of the versions made such an impression on me as IC5.

Edited January 6 by SeNioR-

[Marc]

8 hours ago, Paras said:

I went out of my way to buy this software, so it's only natural that I'm looking forward to the promised final version. I've had experience with other software forums before, at least two.

Those are about as accurate as mine

 

Actually, there is a graphical representation of their accuracy that I found on thisIsAbsolutelyTrueHonestly.com

 

 

 

[Matt]

11 hours ago, EliasM said:

As you can see, it has been more than two weeks and we will enter the third week and there has not been a beta version yet, so they are trying to fix all or most of the bugs before another beta, 

I appreciate their work and I prefer to wait a month until a stable beta is released

That's impossible, soon means about two months.

We've mostly been eating mince pies.

Through bitter experience, we know better than to make software releases around the holidays. More than one of us has spent Christmas Day fixing a crisis or patching a release. We want our staff to have some proper time away so we do not do anything beyond support between Christmas and New Year.

Esther has been working through the bugs, but we're also working on an upgrade of a clone of our main site to prep for that later this month.

I'll be finishing bug fixing and get another beta out this week.

Internally, 5.0.0 is now "locked" except for bug fixes so we are on the run up to the final release. I wouldn't worry too much about the number of bugs, we don't always go back and say which are fixed, but many are.

[Day_]

2 hours ago, Matt said:

We've mostly been eating mince pies.

Through bitter experience, we know better than to make software releases around the holidays. More than one of us has spent Christmas Day fixing a crisis or patching a release. We want our staff to have some proper time away so we do not do anything beyond support between Christmas and New Year.

Esther has been working through the bugs, but we're also working on an upgrade of a clone of our main site to prep for that later this month.

I'll be finishing bug fixing and get another beta out this week.

Internally, 5.0.0 is now "locked" except for bug fixes so we are on the run up to the final release. I wouldn't worry too much about the number of bugs, we don't always go back and say which are fixed, but many are.

Not sure what's more sad here, the fact someone was working on Christmas Day, or you've even had to defend yourself here. 

Whilst I know not everyone celebrates Christmas, for Western countries it's been fairly common period of time off with family, too much food and alcohol.

I'd like to think most customers like myself have not expected to see any Beta or final release over Christmas!

Crack on now though, it's over with, get us our final release yeah? Chop chop!

 

 

[Matt]

42 minutes ago, Day_ said:

Not sure what's more sad here, the fact someone was working on Christmas Day, or you've even had to defend yourself here. 

Whilst I know not everyone celebrates Christmas, for Western countries it's been fairly common period of time off with family, too much food and alcohol.

I'd like to think most customers like myself have not expected to see any Beta or final release over Christmas!

Crack on now though, it's over with, get us our final release yeah? Chop chop!

That's the plan! We're a-choppin'

[James Hargreaves]

Out of interest, what is the procedure for final release in terms of who gets it when?

Does it go to self-hosted for their production sites first, or is a path made for cloud customers to upgrade at the same/a similar time?

 

(I guess I am trying to estimate a little when cloud customers - i.e. me - will have an upgrade path for production sites - appreciate this can't be accurately answered currently though!).

 

Also, just to take the opportunity to say thanks to everyone who has worked on the release (and all the BETA testers for taking the time to test things). It is looking great so far. 🙌

[Marc]

13 hours ago, James Hargreaves said:

Out of interest, what is the procedure for final release in terms of who gets it when?

Does it go to self-hosted for their production sites first, or is a path made for cloud customers to upgrade at the same/a similar time?

 

(I guess I am trying to estimate a little when cloud customers - i.e. me - will have an upgrade path for production sites - appreciate this can't be accurately answered currently though!).

 

Also, just to take the opportunity to say thanks to everyone who has worked on the release (and all the BETA testers for taking the time to test things). It is looking great so far. 🙌

Once version 5 is released, anyone eligible for that version would be able to upgrade to it.