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I like the way the XBMC team release their updates, maybe something that can be explored here:

Betas with Nightly Commits for those wanting bleeding edge

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I like the way the XBMC team release their updates, maybe something that can be explored here:

Betas with Nightly Commits for those wanting bleeding edge

​Great in theory, but would slow down development IMO

NoGi Proficient

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It actually works well for them in practice. It's been like that with XBMC releases for some time now. Granted I don't know the difference in development team sizes, but if nightlies are unrealistic, could release delta updates weekly (like with the alphas) and the official betas can be released when ready via the customer portal.

I don't think it would slow down development that much, it would have a better outcome as other new introduced bugs would be getting reported sooner rather than later. So, when a larger group of users go to the next beta, there would be less new bugs than there would have been without the delta updates.

kotaco Collaborator

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Meh, would be nice to get a Beta release ASAP, but I quit holding out hope for timeframes after they said IPB4 would be out last year and started planning my upgrades (including a heft deposit on a redesign) around that.

My forum is functioning adequately on Beta 2 for now, will be pleasantly surprised when Beta 3 hits to fix our bugs.

Makoto Veteran

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My forum is functioning adequately on Beta 2 for now, will be pleasantly surprised when Beta 3 hits to fix our bugs.

​I hope you mean your preview forum. As anyone who installed the beta software on their production forum and is currently stuck with bugs would deserve to be stuck in the situation they're in right now and have absolutely no right to complain. :tongue:

I don't know why you feel the need to rush Beta 3. It's just another beta release. After the beta there's still likely going to be RC's, there's still going to be a decent bit of time before an official stable release is made. Posting beta releases faster is not going to speed anything up, IPS is releasing betas at a pace they feel is reasonable to keep up with bug reports and the likes.

不中用 Enthusiast

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They are changing the main site to IPS 4 (that will but some more pressure on the Dev team), as a result that we have to wait for the betas longer .. and having a struggle on their own to get the bug tracker running (that is made with Pages(?) I guess) .. And Pages is not optimal yet .. so it's a bit of a war zone in IPS offices  :)  ..

Nevertheless .. if it can be done in-house (IPS main site) .. then it can be delivered to us soon enough ..

Although we have not much use of a bug tracker in our sites (like to know how it is made!!?? Tutorials??)

I hope we are out the beta cycle soon with all apps available in December ..

Makoto Veteran

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Yeah, IPS has stated that they've gathered a lot of valuable data from upgrading the community here. So it's expected that they have a lot to work with and improve on now, so the delay in the next beta release is fully understandable.

I don't think it will be much longer before we start seeing RC releases though (which is of course just my speculation).

Ryan Thomas Enthusiast

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Yeah, IPS has stated that they've gathered a lot of valuable data from upgrading the community here. So it's expected that they have a lot to work with and improve on now, so the delay in the next beta release is fully understandable.

I don't think it will be much longer before we start seeing RC releases though (which is of course just my speculation).

​Yes, it seems this way because for them to upgrade the official site means they are making some major progress.

But the wait is unbearable!

Can we plleeeeeeaassse have IP 4.0 under the Christmas tree this year?  PLEEEEAAAAASSSEEE? :)

Christophe Rising Star

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I think it should be released on Christmas day... Would be interesting to see how many people on here were single by new year LOL

​Terrible idea to do an upgrade during holidays with zero tech support

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I really doubt it will be out in December. Always possible, but in the past most of the time they'd have 5 or more betas and several release candidates. Unless they handle it differently now, since they technically haven't been doing release candidates. Personally I think it will be the borderline of December and January.

kotaco Collaborator

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​I hope you mean your preview forum. As anyone who installed the beta software on their production forum and is currently stuck with bugs would deserve to be stuck in the situation they're in right now and have absolutely no right to complain. :tongue:

I don't know why you feel the need to rush Beta 3. It's just another beta release. After the beta there's still likely going to be RC's, there's still going to be a decent bit of time before an official stable release is made. Posting beta releases faster is not going to speed anything up, IPS is releasing betas at a pace they feel is reasonable to keep up with bug reports and the likes.

​I've been using IPB long enough to be comfortable with upgrading live forums to betas. It's not as big of a deal as some people here make it, IPB just advises people not to do it for liability reasons. Besides, I feel you can get better feedback that way.

Makoto Veteran

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​I've been using IPB long enough to be comfortable with upgrading live forums to betas. It's not as big of a deal as some people here make it, IPB just advises people not to do it for liability reasons. Besides, I feel you can get better feedback that way.

​Yes, that's fair enough, it depends what kind of forum you're running mainly. A business forum or just a small hobby forum. You wouldn't upgrade a production corporate/business website to an unstable beta release, but for small hobby forums as long as you're well aware of the risks and maintain backups it's your own decision. I'm just saying if you do use beta software you have to expect bugs and can't really expect rapid release fixes, you just have to deal and live with them.

I plan on offering a public preview on a beta subdomain of my production forums probably when the first RC is posted.

ghinton Enthusiast

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I actually restarted an old site from scratch using the beta version and have had minimal issues in the overall functionality. Some things like sitemaps not working properly are my major issue right now.

kotaco Collaborator

kotaco

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I actually restarted an old site from scratch using the beta version and have had minimal issues in the overall functionality. Some things like sitemaps not working properly are my major issue right now.

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I actually restarted an old site from scratch using the beta version and have had minimal issues in the overall functionality. Some things like sitemaps not working properly are my major issue right now.

​Beta 1 was a little rough, overall Beta 2 is very functional for what I need with mostly "cosmetic" bugs that end users aren't even noticing the issues are even there. .

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