Hi Guys. I've tested a few different forum topics for mobile friendliness, and it turns out that many self-hosted forums don't meet the mobile-friendly requirements. It seems that Google is blocking many necessary resources (CSS Framework and JS Libraries) so such a topic is devoid of a stylesheet and does not meet the criteria for "Core Web Vitals" and has a low "Page Experience" value.

If we look for an indexed topic and check its cache version, we'll see that it doesn't have a stylesheet. Not in all cases, but in many.

I hope that v5 will be better optimized and will not load so much unnecessary code that the Googlebot is unable to handle.

BTW: In 2024, Google is expected to introduce a INP.

Edited June 25, 20231 yr by SeNioR-

Agree 100%. I hope that V5 will be able to boast a high PageSpeed. A friend transferred a very large forum from free phpBB to IPS and users complain that the forum loads much longer 3-4s, and earlier on the free script 1-2s.

 

Hi Guys. I've tested a few different forum topics for mobile friendliness,

Which test did you use, could you provide a link?

https://search.google.com/test/mobile-friendly

 

 

hope that v5 will be better optimized

Us too! 🙂 

You just need to set up your server correctly, it's not just CSS/JS size. 

We have optimised our cloud platform to ensure CSS/JS is served via gzip and cached correctly and Google is more than happy with it.

Invision Community 5 is removing a lot of redundant JS and CSS, and eventually we want to remove things like jQuery, but it will be a process, so it won't be done for 5.0.0 (or we wouldn't release for another year!). Likewise, user generated content generates a lot of DOM elements and a broad platform such as a forum needs a lot of CSS and JS. 

But just setting up your server correctly will get you passing core web vitals and fetching a solid score on Page Speed tests.

I took the test twice, once positive and once negative.

 

and eventually we want to remove things like jQuery, but it will be a process, so it won't be done for 5.0.0 (or we wouldn't release for another year!)

Over time, does IPS migrate to pure JS or something else?

 

Over time, does IPS migrate to pure JS or something else?

Have you tried using..."<link rel="prefetch"...." e.t.c.  for your JS?
You'll be surprised how well an JS created by IPS works...

 

 

Over time, does IPS migrate to pure JS or something else?

Native JS. Anything new in 5 is native.

 

Native JS. Anything new in 5 is native.

Also think about this - if instead of this code

{{foreach array_unique( array_filter( \IPS\Output::i()->jsFiles ), SORT_STRING ) as $js}}
{{$js = \IPS\Http\Url::external( $js );}}
<script src='{{if $js->data['host'] == parse_url( \IPS\Settings::i()->base_url, PHP_URL_HOST )}}{expression="$js->setQueryString( 'v', \IPS\Output\Javascript::javascriptCacheBustKey() )"}{{else}}{expression="$js"}{{endif}}' data-ips></script>
<{endforeach}}

put this in include JS

{{foreach array_unique( array_filter( \IPS\Output::i()->jsFiles ), SORT_STRING ) as $js}}
{{$js = \IPS\Http\Url::external( $js );}}
<script src='{{if $js->data['host'] == parse_url( \IPS\Settings::i()->base_url, PHP_URL_HOST )}}{expression="$js->setQueryString( 'v', \IPS\Output\Javascript::javascriptCacheBustKey() )"}{{else}}{expression="$js"}{{endif}}' data-ips></script>
<link rel="prefetch" href='{{if $js->data['host'] == parse_url( \IPS\Settings::i()->base_url, PHP_URL_HOST )}}{expression="$js->setQueryString( 'v', \IPS\Output\Javascript::javascriptCacheBustKey() )"}{{else}}{expression="$js"}{{endif}}'>
{{endforeach}}

speed indicators are improving sharply ...

 

You just need to set up your server correctly, it's not just CSS/JS size. 

We have optimised our cloud platform to ensure CSS/JS is served via gzip and cached correctly and Google is more than happy with it.

Invision Community 5 is removing a lot of redundant JS and CSS, and eventually we want to remove things like jQuery, but it will be a process, so it won't be done for 5.0.0 (or we wouldn't release for another year!). Likewise, user generated content generates a lot of DOM elements and a broad platform such as a forum needs a lot of CSS and JS. 

But just setting up your server correctly will get you passing core web vitals and fetching a solid score on Page Speed tests.

The result on the computer is quite good, while on mobile devices it is average at best.

Average out of the box is fine, we'll take that. It passes all core web vitals tests and gets a solid average score on mobile.

We continue to improve the mobile experience with v5.