Piracy

[Please Delete]

So my point with that was that VB has call backs I guess you can say, and IPB well who knows - user reported?

If vB has a callback then it was not a nulled version. The whole point of a nulled version is to disable a callback.

I do agree with your point to go after the distributors, that should be a number one priority

[Guest]

vB subcontracts their piracy-related stuff to piratereports.com. As far as I know, IPS does everything themselves, which is a big reason behind it.

[Alfrеdo]

http://piratereports.com/index.php?page=report

They're listed on the page though.

[wickedfpoop]

as well as locations to report software that we consider would benefit from closer licensing or content scrutiny.

:)

[bfarber]

Can't you just contact the host?

Oh and I would not use a nulled forum I am just saying.

It really ****s me off when I see nulled forums.

And we do. What then when the host doesn't do anything about it (as is often the case in countries overseas)?

[Alfrеdo]

I read that part too Josh, just didn't fully understand what it means. They're just putting your company on their site out of courtesy?

[Guest]

And we do. What then when the host doesn't do anything about it (as is often the case in countries overseas)?

Physically go to the servers and destroy them. :D

[dave@junomedia.co.uk]

So enjoy your legal software with full support and don't worry too much about the nulled boards. In the end if they get successful they will consider the option of adding full support because nobody wants old unsecure software versions on a popular site.

Support? There are hundreds of places where you can get support/mods/skins for your boards without proving you have an IPB License. I think the problems lie there. If you can put more resources onto IPB Resources, and sort of put people with nulled boards stranded away from all that, then it'll become a huge downside to use a nulled board.

[wickedfpoop]

I read that part too Josh, just didn't fully understand what it means. They're just putting your company on their site out of courtesy?

What I get out of that statement is basically the last one in the first paragraph. The one that mentions that even if they are shut down due to piracy, that they may attempt to pirate another forum software as well.

So it's kinda of saying "if we shut them down, they may pirate another forum software and here's the links to turn them in for that software as well".

[Guest]

Would it be possible to require something like inserting the license key, or the client area e-mail and password before you can use the installer?

I know it wouldn't stop nulled boards, but it *would* stop a lot of the people who just distribute the version directly from their client area.

[.Ryan]

If vB has a callback then it was not a nulled version. The whole point of a nulled version is to disable a callback.

I do agree with your point to go after the distributors, that should be a number one priority

I know, its just that if I didn't find a distributor I wouldn't have gotten a copy up. Now over seas hosting I can agree its a pain, but weakspots everywhere. Also I don't see why it takes so long for RS links to go down with IPS... again I got mine down in less than 24 hours... and I'm no big threatening company lmao :rolleyes:

They were like ok its killed, e-mail us with anything else you want down, bam done.

[dave@junomedia.co.uk]

I know, its just that if I didn't find a distributor I wouldn't have gotten a copy up. Now over seas hosting I can agree its a pain, but weakspots everywhere. Also I don't see why it takes so long for RS links to go down with IPS... again I got mine down in less than 24 hours... and I'm no big threatening company lmao :rolleyes:

They were like ok its killed, e-mail us with anything else you want down, bam done.

Do you know easy it is to upload the links back though? I mean it takes a couple mins and bam it's up again. I don't know, I think the best way is to make sure these people don't have access to resources like skins, modifications, and 3rd party support. If you do that, you leave them stranded.

[Energizer]

http://piratereports.com/index.php?page=report

They're listed on the page though.

IPS also works with the BSA?

http://www.bsa.org/country.aspx?sc_lang=en

[Mat Barrie]

Right so .. do you guys not reply? I put my email address in even though it was optional.

Right. They don't reply, because to do so would be a violationg of privacy. Sure, they could reply, but they can't tell you anything other than "got your email" which is pretty pointless.

[bfarber]

For the record, all piracy is handled in house. We do not work with any third party companies at all.

And when you have 300 piracy reports, .Ryan, perhaps the ones you submitted just hadn't been seen yet? ;) I mean, sure one of the employees could sit and do nothing but piracy day in and day out - but then who does support, manages sales requests, answers phones, and so on? Time is divided as appropriate. Our paying customers come before any piracy reports, which is how I think it should be. :)

[Guest]

When you use that form, there's also an option for usage or distribution...I'm assuming they sort out the distribution ones first (correct me if I'm wrong, please.)

[-Calypso-]

I have yet to see an IPB site that uses ONLY the core IP.Board software (other than here). Every IPB site that I have seen has made some sort of addition to enhance the focus of the site content. We all know that many people choose IPB not only because the quality of the software is good but also for the extra modifications that they can add to it. When IPB 3.0 comes out and I update my iPoints, I will be releasing it only at my site and here, these are also the only places where I will offer support for it. I have turned my entire site into an "anti-nulled" board. For members to get access to all the downloads, tutorials and support they have to PM me here (if they are in the customers group) or offer some other sort of "Proof of Ownership". My sales have slumped due to this but also has my support requests. I have about 90% less support questions since I started the verification process. It is more difficult now for pirated board users to get the mods from my site. I know there are many at IZE but like I said, when the 3.0 comes out, that will be the end of that. Oh I am sure that someone will end up posting my updated mods elsewhere but there will be no support for them elsewhere. If every site that offers free mods/skins/services would start this system, they would have much less support questions to answer and I am sure that the pirated world would feel the pinch of not being able to "spice up" their nulled board like they did in the past. The only reason I see for anyone operating an IPB resource site to not do something like this is because they want the few extra $ that they can get from pirated users. I am sure there will be arguments to that but everyone knows it is true. Right now on my site I have 1,017 registered members and only 283 members in the "Verified" group. This is more than 2/3 of the registrations looking for mods/support that can not get to it.

[.Matt.]

IPS isn't good at piracy, for instance. I'm still get there emails about a pirated bored for a site that I haven't hosted on my servers for almost two months already.