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Mat Barrie Experienced

Mat Barrie

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There is a general sense here that everybody who runs an IPB forum has a complete grasp on how to use some of the more advanced features. While I am able to generally navigate through the CSS - which is not particularly easy, considering its length and the plethora of properties contained inside - I am confident that there are forum admins who are not. The trend in IPB 2.2 is towards being intuitive, and having a toggleable option to remove such a major and basic feature in General Settings is definitely something that people would expect.



Again, I'm not saying that I wouldn't understand how to remove it through the CSS. The fact is, however, that there are people who wouldn't, and that the rest of us would save considerable time being able to use a simpler option. While I can't think of any at the moment, I'm confident that there are plenty of options that you can set in the Admin CP that could be modified through the CSS or templates.



I'm not sure I agree with you in that it's a major and basic feature. Also, if we had a toggleable setting in the ACP for each and every little change in colour, we'd have altogether too many settings. It's not really all that hard once you know the CSS class to change the colour to whatever you like (and that's only if you use the default anyway), just open CSS Editor, Ctrl+F to the definition, change "background-color" to whatever you want. I really don't think yet more settings are necessary. That's not intuitive, that's bloat.
Gogf Rookie

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Then why are you so adamant about this? Those who don't like it and have no idea how to follow instructions can at least speak for themselves, I would think?



Two things:

- I'm speaking more as a designer than a user when I say there should be a toggleable option.
- I'm not adamant about a toggleable option, but about how it looks in the default. It's so distracting that it's hard to concentrate on this post while editing it because of the giant black bar below it.

I'm not sure I agree with you in that it's a major and basic feature. Also, if we had a toggleable setting in the ACP for each and every little change in colour, we'd have altogether too many settings. It's not really all that hard once you know the CSS class to change the colour to whatever you like (and that's only if you use the default anyway), just open CSS Editor, Ctrl+F to the definition, change "background-color" to whatever you want. I really don't think yet more settings are necessary. That's not intuitive, that's bloat.



I'm not saying there should be a toggleable option to change the color but one to turn the entire feature on and off.
Mat Barrie Experienced

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I'm not saying there should be a toggleable option to change the color but one to turn the entire feature on and off.



Which, the resizing or the notification bar saying the image has been resized? I definitely don't agree you should be able to turn resizing off unless functionality is offered to prevent images over a certain size being used at all.
MasumX Rookie

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Kill the black bar asap lol IPS can do better then this!

Live up to the hype of IPB skin IPS!

Don't kill the sexy skin with the black bar on the signature.

and I suggest that the message may appear only when a user mouse over the signature and must take off the black bar and make it more smaller.

Gogf Rookie

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Which, the resizing or the notification bar saying the image has been resized? I definitely don't agree you should be able to turn resizing off unless functionality is offered to prevent images over a certain size being used at all.



The entire feature. There needs to be some sort of notication if an image is resized, or people won't understand what's going on. I don't understand what's wrong with giving people to turn the system off. It's a departure from how most forum systems I know work, and some people may not like that.


What color would not clash with a full-color photo then?



A regular sized and formatted text message with no background color. A dark blue bar would probably also work, but I can see instances where it wouldn't be ideal.
MasumX Rookie

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Any transparent color or w/e not straight black, red, blue, etc colors..

and please make message appear only when a user mouse over the signature....don't wanna see it every time.

Mat Barrie Experienced

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The entire feature. There needs to be some sort of notication if an image is resized, or people won't understand what's going on. I don't understand what's wrong with giving people to turn the system off. It's a departure from how most forum systems I know work, and some people may not like that.



Disagree. I like the way a user can't post an image that causes the forums to stretch to 900% of their regular width. It makes reading threads absolutely unbearable. This feature is a welcome change from "how most forum systems" you know work. I don't think it should be the admin's call whether users have to scroll for six weeks because some twat posted a 7 kilometre wide image.
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Disagree. I like the way a user can't post an image that causes the forums to stretch to 900% of their regular width. It makes reading threads absolutely unbearable. This feature is a welcome change from \"how most forum systems\" you know work. I don't think it should be the admin's call whether users have to scroll for six weeks because some twat posted a 7 kilometre wide image.




I like the change too. However, I don't like the idea of forcing changes down users' throats when it's entirely possible that there could be reasons - possibly such as server load - that they wouldn't want it on. Anyway, that's not what I really care about. It would be nice, sure, but it's not necessary. Changing the darn black bar to something more bearable IS the issue.

Half of the people around here seem to think that the current system looks awful. Another half think it looks okay. Don't you think we can do better than having half think it looks awful? How many people would object to having a transparent background with normally colored text?
Mat Barrie Experienced

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I like the change too. However, I don't like the idea of forcing changes down users' throats when it's entirely possible that there could be reasons - possibly such as server load - that they wouldn't want it on. Anyway, that's not what I really care about. It would be nice, sure, but it's not necessary. Changing the darn black bar to something more bearable IS the issue.



Half of the people around here seem to think that the current system looks awful. Another half think it looks okay. Don't you think we can do better than having half think it looks awful? How many people would object to having a transparent background with normally colored text?



Before we make a real decision, let's wait and see why the devs thought black was "the colour" - I personally like the black, although dark blue (the ACP's particular shade of it?) would be just as fine by me.
Josh Grand Master

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I like the change too. However, I don't like the idea of forcing changes down users' throats when it's entirely possible that there could be reasons - possibly such as server load - that they wouldn't want it on. Anyway, that's not what I really care about. It would be nice, sure, but it's not necessary. Changing the darn black bar to something more bearable IS the issue.



There's no potential server load issue, the images are resized via JS after the page is loaded. I'll leave the 'why is it black?' question to Matt, but I never would have guessed there'd be any controversy over the color :lol:
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Matt Grand Master

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Interesting topic!

I used black simply because it runs along the same lines as the attached thumbnails (which have a black border) and it runs along the same lines as popular image hosting sites.

Pretty much like this: http://img75.imageshack.us/content.php?pag...snag0002ew9.png

Also keep in mind that the information has to appear *above* the image for the JS to calculate it properly without alterting the tag <img > tag output as we use the parentNode.insertBefore command. Before you ask, not all browsers support 'insertAfter'.

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Matt Grand Master

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The CSS is simply:

{    margin: 4px 0px 0px 0px;    padding: 0px;    background-color: #000;    border: 0px;    color: #FFF;}

.resized-linked-image






.Jack Collaborator

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I think it looks uber sexy for javascript resized images. But the way the entire black surrounds attachment thumbnails is somewhat fugly imho.

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