Very poor ratings on the phone version mostly because of render-blocking resources in the css and unused javascript.

PC version is good but the phone version lacks on all Invision Community sites that I have checked.

Do we have an estimate to when IPB 5 will release?

 

It already has a TON of performance improvements such as a ton of removed JS, optimized CSS, etc. 

I’m looking forward to this the most, before any new features. It’s amazing how impactful page load and Google page speed scores are on ranking and traffic. Arguably one of the most important updates for anyone making a living off of their sites these days.

I wish to know if there are a way to optimize on phone for now without going to IPS 5 because who knows when that will be released. Does anyone know developers who optimize invision community sites and offers that service.

 

3 seconds to paint seems way high. 
 

Is this repeatable by others?

One of my sites

Those Page Speed results can be misleading as they usually complain about exactly the things you cannot change (as they are part of the IPS framework) and they don’t tell you about the things you can change. 

It’s much better to focus on the things in your control. 

1. The server and all its components play a huge role. That’s the admin’s responsibility for self-hosted installation. 
2. Caching of resources and maybe even full pages. Plenty of optimization potential here!
3. Third-party interference. Loading external ads, analytics, webfonts  … that slows down the site significantly. 
4. And then of course: what’s on the page to begin with? I often see community sites completely overloaded with blocks, trying to announce everything the site has to offer on the homepage with sliders and sometimes hundreds of avatar images to be loaded, plus external ads everywhere … Of course such a page will be slow to load. IPS can’t fix that with framework updates. 

 

Aside from the content and blocks that are cached, there’s some room for change around how IPS delivers CSS and JS. Need a way to combine files.

On a side note, two of my sites use CSM/pages app on the front end and they load slower than my sites that use the forum on the front end. Overall page load. I have to dig in but if you have pages installed, it’s a tad bit slower page load from what I can tell. 

 

performing items on my page are all served by Google. Fonts, Ads, analytics

I see the same thing. I’ve implemented some lazy load around Adsense and also removed Google captcha code loading on every forum topic, which is post before register.

 

Agreed that being able to eventually combine files would be helpful. V5 has SIGNIFICANTLY less JS and CSS overall.

I'm lookin forward to it! There's some things you can do, like not use custom.css, separate theme css, js, etc. Here's a bare bones, default IPS theme result with no blocks, just a forum home page in fluid view. I've made no edits or additions. Bare as can be...

Edited May 27, 2024May 27 by AlexWebsites

 

It would be interesting to see if there is a significant pagespeed difference between mysite.com/ and mysite.com/forums for sites that use Pages.

I haven’t seen significant differences, but again, it would depend on what is actually on those pages. 
As Alex said, Pages databases don’t seem to be super fast. I have one site where the Pages homepage doesn’t show the main article database, but actually a block listing the latest articles. As those blocks are part of the regular sidebar block caching, it loads faster than the actual article database. Might be worth considering.  

 

I don't know if this is a relatively recent issue or has always been that way. 

Definitely a recent issue. Members complaining since the last update.

I've noticed that PageSpeed Insights can be pretty easily manipulated. While it still points out issues like unused CSS/JavaScript and render-blocking stuff, I managed to get all my scores over 90 just by adding a lot of text at the top of the page in the viewport. So, yeah, it's not always reliable.

On IPS installation.



The most problematic part is phone version which I couldn't do anything about, cuz on phone it cried over unused CSS/Javascript + render-blocking nothing else.

Edited June 18, 2024Jun 18 by Alexandru