Bobcheese123 Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 I have 2 ideas actually. 1. Have an automatic mod installer. You click browse and upload the zip file. It will automatically install the mod. 2. The other idea is being able to fully customize your forum profile. What the admin does:1. Makes profile categories 2. Makes the custom fields (included already)3. Can remove any field he/she wants (aim, e-mail interests, etc.) 4. Decides who can customize their profile. What use user does:1. Fills in the profiles2. Organizes the categories to display in any order he/she chooses3. Customizes background, foreground, titles, etc.If 1 of these mods is chosen to be made, I would want the first one.
Dark Phantom Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Automatic Modification Install is not practical, it would also require people to write their modifications to support it, and many people wouldn't want to do that. Plus the amount of work required to install a modification, really isn't that much work, its also not something that should be done.Lets face it, modifications should be written in a way where code changes are not required, which is already possible to a point, all depends on the function of the modification.In other words, I really don't like the idea, doesn't sound professional.
Brian Garcia Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 I am pretty sure there is something out there. I think it was made by Fusoya.
Dark Phantom Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Yeah there is and most mods use it.I wouldn't say most mods, since I know about 3x as many mods that don't use it.
Concept X Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 True but most mods made by people who make a large amount of mods use them in the updated versions for 2.2.X
Digi Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 That option is available, but remember that it does not install changes that may be needed to the source files.Automatic Modification Install is not practical, it would also require people to write their modifications to support it, and many people wouldn't want to do that. Plus the amount of work required to install a modification, really isn't that much work, its also not something that should be done.It is practical, and just because people are too lazy to want to conform to it, doesn't mean that it should be ignored. I agree, in most cases a mod does not require that much work and is fairly easy, but not all people have the knowledge, or want, to do something like this. Yet still want the modification installed.
Jaggi Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 a mod installer isn't lots of work, its less work than editing lang files, adding sgl tables and adding tons of templates manually. I do think that micheals universal mod installer is good tho and lots of people are using it or attempting to use it.
Mark Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 A hooks system which will allow a proper mod installer is being added to 3.0The reason some mods don't use Fussie's mod (:P) is because sometimes mods only require file edits and no sql, template bits, settings, etc. need to be added.I agree the new profiles, as cool as they are now, need a bit of improovement - first is to make ALL profile fields custom fields.
The Clash Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 PhpBB has EasyMOD - there have been specific guidelines set by PhpBB to write mods -- Why can't IPB be different?Yes, there is an Automatic Mod Installer already by Fusoya, but it does not edit files, or any of the hard work. And it's especially hard installing mods if you don't have Dreamweaver, Frontpage, or some other PHP editing software, because it's a pain to use the Find feature in Notepad.
stobbo Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 PhpBB has EasyMOD - there have been specific guidelines set by PhpBB to write mods -- Why can't IPB be different?Yes, there is an Automatic Mod Installer already by Fusoya, but it does not edit files, or any of the hard work. And it's especially hard installing mods if you don't have Dreamweaver, Frontpage, or some other PHP editing software, because it's a pain to use the Find feature in Notepad.How could the Mod Installer edit files, it can't go by line number because people could of already made edits messing the line numbers up.
Digi Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Yes, that is exactly why the mod installer created in the IPB 1.2 - 1.3 days failed. No installer will ever be able to edit files directly and work every time. Also, leaving files open to the installer (ie chmod 777) poses a risk of its own.
Michael Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 The reason some mods don't use Fussie's mod (:P) is because sometimes mods only require file edits and no sql, template bits, settings, etc. need to be added.Or the mod makers decide to do silly things like hard-code text that should be in language files, or give instructions on manually adding settings/templates/components/etc. I think only one, or maybe 2, of my mods don't actually use the UMI (Universal Mod Installer). I'd say probably 80-90% of all mods could use the UMI, the authors just choose not to for some reason or another.If there was something like this for 3.0 along with the Hooks system, then it will be a huge step forward for modders and site owners who use mods.
UBERHOST.NET Posted February 28, 2007 Posted February 28, 2007 Yeah there is and most mods use it.I wish! Michael's (FSY22) Universal Mod Installer v2.4 is the best thing ever.
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