BernardBlack Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 This seems to me as a strange way to have a forum going, a back up area - but no restore function, I have tried for over a week to restore my database ;) I simple lil function would really help many... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augenj Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 Ditto here. I've seen the restore procedure that's been recommended by some but it's not "push button" like the backups, SQL or full. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardBlack Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 I think they should have it is so you just have to hit a button... would save a lot of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan2863 Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 :) I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skysober Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 that would make it too easy... IPB likes to add functions that are flashy and seldom used... something like a backup and restore would actually be used - lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 ......IPB likes to add functions that are flashy and seldom used....... Such as? :rolleyes: I believe the reason for no restore option is because unless you have a tiny database you simply aren't going to be able to restore it from a web based interface because it will time out, you really need to use SSH. If there were a restore option I can also imagine people running it and then complaining when their database is overwritten, even if they are warned ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augenj Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Such as? :rolleyes: I believe the reason for no restore option is because unless you have a tiny database you simply aren't going to be able to restore it from a web based interface because it will time out, you really need to use SSH. If there were a restore option I can also imagine people running it and then complaining when their database is overwritten, even if they are warned ;) As I recall, there is no timeout issue from cPanel for a full backup and maybe even a SQL backup. If people are going to complain about the restore results, they are also going to complain that their data base is trashed and they need to restore it. I think we remain unconvinced. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 cPanel only works on Unix based systems so it sets a crontab to run a perl script, thereby running the restore as if it is a normal system process. IPB is universal and only has a normal PHP execution cycle in which to run the restore which typically has a memory limit of 8MB and a timeout of 30 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeRoRaVeN Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Right, which would mean that even if they added a restore function, it'll be pointless because as you said since IPB runs as a normal php process and many hosts get picky and all pissed when you start using alot of resources, the restrictions allow for only a small site and then it wouldn't make sense to add a restore function. And truth be told, it's so easy to do it anyway in cpanel, but then again I've been doing this for some time. If you don't know how to restore/backup your databases without IPB...then...I don't know what to say....enough IPB handholding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasumX Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 I think it should be added, as It will help many users who have not much of ideas with backing up the files thru Cpanel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skysober Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 @ZeRoRaVeN If you don't know how to restore/backup your databases without IPB...then...I don't know what to say....enough IPB handholding. hmm... enough handholding? LOL... lord knows we didn't PAY for IPB to have them sit by and laugh when someone doesn't know how to do a restore... If this malarchy about IPB timing out if performing a restore... well then, they could actually have a simple place in the Cpanel that explains in plain english HOW to restore it... I bet if I had one dollar for every post that has been made about restoring IPB, I would be as rich as IPB is getting off it's customers. Not everyone understands SQL and I sure don't want to learn it! That's WHY I bought it... (or at least why I was swayed to purchase it from their adversting how easy it is to use and 24/7 support for a year... NOT! And what's funny... after 3 hours of searching.. I have YET to figure out how to restore my database. someday, since this is kind of a MAJOR part of having a forum IPB will realize this and actually do something about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasumX Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 It's indeed sad,, how they're still not doing anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chortos-2 (aka Astiob) Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Could you PLEASE read the post #8 in this topic? <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elemental Crisis Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 skysober, do you have a backup of your IPB Database, is so you can use PHPmyadmin to restore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chortos-2 (aka Astiob) Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Yeah! :cool:http://www.phpmyadmin.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elemental Crisis Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Most hosts have PHPMyadmin with CPanel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skysober Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 why, yes.. there is a phpmyadmin... Of course all I need to do is to learn now to use THAT now... I solved it the old fashioned way... I PAID additional to have a programmer restore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastie Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 not that I need it with shell access, but how about a restore option from a path? The member could upload the backup to a folder, and IPB could restore it from that folder already on the server. It could have page refreshes just like the upgrades to... processing 50...100...150, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augenj Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 not that I need it with shell access, but how about a restore option from a path? The member could upload the backup to a folder, and IPB could restore it from that folder already on the server. It could have page refreshes just like the upgrades to... processing 50...100...150, etc. Sounds "doable" to me. :thumbsup: But I'm sure that those who are dead set against easy restores by the unwashed masses will have other ideas. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elemental Crisis Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 skysober its not to hard, I suggest checking it and looking into it. If you have questions ask, I learned just by checking it out and messin around with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeRoRaVeN Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 @ZeRoRaVeN hmm... enough handholding? LOL... lord knows we didn't PAY for IPB to have them sit by and laugh when someone doesn't know how to do a restore... If this malarchy about IPB timing out if performing a restore... well then, they could actually have a simple place in the Cpanel that explains in plain english HOW to restore it... I bet if I had one dollar for every post that has been made about restoring IPB, I would be as rich as IPB is getting off it's customers. Not everyone understands SQL and I sure don't want to learn it! That's WHY I bought it... (or at least why I was swayed to purchase it from their adversting how easy it is to use and 24/7 support for a year... NOT! And what's funny... after 3 hours of searching.. I have YET to figure out how to restore my database. someday, since this is kind of a MAJOR part of having a forum IPB will realize this and actually do something about it... You don't need to know it! You're not going to learn the language. It's incredible easy! It won't take more than 5 mins! CPANEL > PHPMYADMIN > Select Database > SQL > Browse File > UPLOAD (make sure it's set to auto detect) SIMPLE! How hard is it? Unless you don't have cpanel. I can't believe you people run forums. I'm not even a customer of IPS (going to be, my order hasn't been paid yet) as I run the IPB 2 trial, and I know how to do it. Enough. It's time most of you learned at least some basic forum upkeep. IPS shouldn't have to keep on developing features just so that those people who can't even restore a database can do it. and then what? restore user complains? blah blah blah. Please. It's not hard. If you were doing somebody complex, but this is stupid, why should IPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augenj Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Now, sit down and take a deeeep breath.. We're just pulling on people's chains here.. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chortos-2 (aka Astiob) Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 not that I need it with shell access, but how about a restore option from a path? The member could upload the backup to a folder, and IPB could restore it from that folder already on the server. It could have page refreshes just like the upgrades to... processing 50...100...150, etc. It's not as simple to make as you think... <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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