I figured that was the case, thank you muchly! I've kind of taken on the job of exploring the forum software from the user/member POV so I needed to find where the user would change the view from whatever the default might be. We've got others on the team who are much better at the admin stuff than I am. Ah, well ... we all have our strengths and weaknesses! Now I can explore how IPB's thread/outline/tree and hybrid/linear+ views compare with vB's. (Good grief, I wish there were some sort of standard terminology for these things.:blink:)