This may have already been asked before, but I haven't been able to find anything in the searches when I looked. But any timeframe that V5 well be out? Are we thinking 2025 1st Quarter more so than 2024? 

Edited November 7, 2024Nov 7 by ZakRhyno

It will depend on the beta process and what comes up in that process. Especially at this point in the year, I could say one or the other and only be out by a week to change that answer 🙂 

Hi Zak,

It's a good question. Developers are always reluctant to give a ballpark figure for when they expect a product to be released for two reasons: firstly, they are overly optimistic about how long things take, and secondly once a date or month is given, it starts a countdown. If we miss that date then it becomes a bit of a stick to wave at us.

All that said, we are confident that we'll release v5.0.0 final in Q1 2025. It will probably feel like quite a soft release as we won't update our website, etc, and we'll offer it alongside v4 which will be supported for quite a while yet. We'd expect most will stick with v4 while testing out v5 and waiting for it to mature a bit before converting over.

 

All that said, we are confident that we'll release v5.0.0 final in Q1 2025. It will probably feel like quite a soft release as we won't update our website, etc, and we'll offer it alongside v4 which will be supported for quite a while yet. We'd expect most will stick with v4 while testing out v5 and waiting for it to mature a bit before converting over.

Thank you for your candor.

One more thing we need to wait for is themes and add-ons.  Fortunately, I only use themes from @Ehren, so I know I'm in good hands there.

I have a bunch of plugins, I suspect I'll just need to get along without those, or ideally those authors convert them to apps.

Either way, I will end up with fewer add-ons than I currently have as it seems many people have abandoned them.

 

Thank you for your candor.

One more thing we need to wait for is themes and add-ons.  Fortunately, I only use themes from @Ehren, so I know I'm in good hands there.

I have a bunch of plugins, I suspect I'll just need to get along without those, or ideally those authors convert them to apps.

Either way, I will end up with fewer add-ons than I currently have as it seems many people have abandoned them.

Absolutely, the actual upgrade is the easy bit. It'll take time for themes and apps to be updated which we understand and will do what we can to help with.

 

Hi Zak,

It's a good question. Developers are always reluctant to give a ballpark figure for when they expect a product to be released for two reasons: firstly, they are overly optimistic about how long things take, and secondly once a date or month is given, it starts a countdown. If we miss that date then it becomes a bit of a stick to wave at us.

All that said, we are confident that we'll release v5.0.0 final in Q1 2025. It will probably feel like quite a soft release as we won't update our website, etc, and we'll offer it alongside v4 which will be supported for quite a while yet. We'd expect most will stick with v4 while testing out v5 and waiting for it to mature a bit before converting over.

tyvm

 

Hi Zak,

It's a good question. Developers are always reluctant to give a ballpark figure for when they expect a product to be released for two reasons: firstly, they are overly optimistic about how long things take, and secondly once a date or month is given, it starts a countdown. If we miss that date then it becomes a bit of a stick to wave at us.

All that said, we are confident that we'll release v5.0.0 final in Q1 2025. It will probably feel like quite a soft release as we won't update our website, etc, and we'll offer it alongside v4 which will be supported for quite a while yet. We'd expect most will stick with v4 while testing out v5 and waiting for it to mature a bit before converting over.

Software vendors offer beta versions to try out for free until the GA is out. This way, it gets quicker to reach GA as it follows, "demo/try early, fail early, report early, fix early" instead of waiting too long. The current trial accounts are valid for only a month. If we try Beta 2 for a month, then there is Beta 3 and 4 and... and no way to try those later versions.

Please consider keeping the trial accounts active until IC v5 goes live so users can try out the frontend and backend and help you get there sooner.

 

If we try Beta 2 for a month, then there is Beta 3 and 4 and... and no way to try those later versions.

You would simply create a new one. 

 

we'll offer it alongside v4 which will be supported for quite a while yet

In the deprecation tracker, v4 is listed as "Removal 2025/2026". It should be safe to remove 2025 from there, I think.

Just to get an idea, since the deprecation tracker still says 2025/2026... Do you still think this is the way to go?

If there is anything different on that, we would amend it as needed.

Now that v5 is out, my opinion is that this vague period should become a specific date so we can all do our long term scheduling. A date can always be extended if the initial estimate proves wrong.

We have nothing more specific to provide you with at this time.