ReyDev Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Marc Stridgen said: I understand your disappointment there, however, I just wanted to clarify a few points there.. In terms of 'unprofessionally'. We have evaluated this internally for quite a while now. Once it was decided, we release our intentions to a focus group of people to discuss. Our intentions were released over a month ago to providers, then 3 weeks ago to let members know. We have done this, and people know it will be being removed in another months time. So there has indeed been plenty of time given on the removal. With renewals, at some point, we have to stop accepting them. After all, they will not be able to download on our site. With setting up your own marketplace, and working out how users can download the new file, I'm not sure what you mean here. If you are unsure on how to set up the Invision platform for you to sell files, I'm sure someone can point you in the right direction. However, as a developer on the platform, I would question whether or not you are unsure how to do this. I completely understand your opinion there. But while I understand the opinion, it doesn't necessarily mean I agree with them. We have worked to try and provide a way for providers to know who has purchased a file on here by way of keys. Outside of this, the intention is we are removing the marketplace and the intention is that we are no longer involved in that process. We have run the marketplace at a considerable cost to the company for quite a while. And while I understand your disappointment, this was a free service, provided at a cost to us as a company, for what is now very much the minority of customers. I know and I was one of the first to support your decision and I am really happy (you don't know how much 🙂 ) because it removes the restrictions of development for me and I can do bigger things. I didn't mean how to set up my own marketplace, I know it perfectly (I'm doing it with Laravel and React - something I specialize in) but the point is enough time to prepare all these things. Because according to what you said, it remains almost 2 months. I mean, for example, in a particular case, as the sale of the product is currently active, why has its renewal been stopped? These two things are related. Don't you think so? Because my customers expect to be able to download the new version of the app now that it is released. If it didn't allow me to upload the new version when I wanted to upload the new version, you can be sure that I wouldn't have spent the time to write the previous post and this one. I think that writing and explaining more about this matter, both from your side and from me, will not solve the problem because you have made your decision and done it.here I want to ask customers to wait for a short time so that I can implement the update method and other things and I apologize to them for this. Edited September 7 by ReyDev Steph40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Stridgen Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 51 minutes ago, ReyDev said: I didn't mean how to set up my own marketplace, I know it perfectly (I'm doing it with Laravel and React - something I specialize in) but the point is enough time to prepare all these things. Because according to what you said, it remains almost 2 months. That is correct, yes 51 minutes ago, ReyDev said: I mean, for example, in a particular case, as the sale of the product is currently active, why has its renewal been stopped? These two things are related. Don't you think so? Because my customers expect to be able to download the new version of the app now that it is released. Kind of a double-edged sword with this one. No matter when and how we do it, someone wont be happy with it, and at some point we have to stop taking them. The reality is, if we did them both at the same time, your previous point would be even more an issue (the 2 month you mentioned there). Imagine you have a security issue. You would have nowhere to release it. Major bug? Nope. No way to release it. I understand the thought seems to be the opposite for some, but we really do think about these things. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReyDev Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 15 minutes ago, Marc Stridgen said: Imagine you have a security issue. You would have nowhere to release it. Major bug? Nope. No way to release it. I understand the thought seems to be the opposite for some, but we really do think about these things. I know you have a lot to do rather than this conversation, and really appreciate you taking the time to answer. I completely agree with what you said. It really makes sense but what about users whose purchases have expired? maybe they also want to update their apps to fix major/security bugs. The Old Man, abobader and Steph40 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleFang Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 19 hours ago, The Old Man said: It totally grinds my gears too. There is no new one! However, your AdminCP Dashboard if and will tell you when there is an update available, just like it always has. It just won’t install it for you or help you find new apps and themes. It’s been said so many times before, but I think the providers list should really be in the AdminCP where it belongs, so people can conveniently browse from one logical central point and discover products, with external links to them and the third party disclaimer. It’s (IMHO) the least IPS could do. They say only a minority of IPS Clients visit this site, of that minority, only a few will ever find the almost hidden providers list, (and of course they crippled Commerce before adding new features or integrations! Grr). I let my theme updates sit til the last min since I have to go and upload them myself. I just don't have that kind of time. The Old Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Man Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 Sooooo... moving on..... who do I have to buy dinner for to get my coveted Provider's badge approved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekforum Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 On 8/15/2023 at 2:47 PM, Lindy said: • You will be able to obtain a key for each of your current Marketplace purchases and provide that key to authors to transfer your purchases directly to the author What happen about all of the plugins/applications provided by authors who are no longer responsive? We will loose access to those. Is it possible to get the files to give to a new developer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Angle Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 57 minutes ago, ekforum said: Is it possible to get the files to give to a new developer? Go download them to your local PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Calvert Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 1 hour ago, ekforum said: What happen about all of the plugins/applications provided by authors who are no longer responsive? We will loose access to those. Is it possible to get the files to give to a new developer? If they're not longer responsive, the same thing that would happen even if the marketplace remained open... you could continue using the application as long as it works. But given there are no new updates or support... it would mean if you run into problems later you would be on your own in terms of figuring out what the problem is. IPS does not own the plugins/applications. It's not for them to give to someone else. That would be like me giving your website to someone else. It's not my right to do that. 🙂 WP V0RT3X and Steph40 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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