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Overflowing Posted July 24, 2012 Posted July 24, 2012 Just bought IPB, and glad I did best forum software now I plan to use a VPS So I'm trying to run a community and I'm not familar with VPS's if anyone can link me a list of guides that I can read on how to host IPB on my vps I would really appreciate it. The VPS i'm looking to get is this.. Disk Storage Space: 300GB Guaranteed Physical Memory: 6 GB Bandwidth per month : 2tb Burst memory limit: 10 GB Unique Dedicated IP Addresses : 2 Free Virtualization Platform: OpenVZ Processor: 6000 MHZ Price : $59.99/month It's using linux. A friend told me to use kloxo panel and I can host IPB; can anyone point me to the right direction? ( List me guides and such tips warning and etc whatever I need to know; I'm short on time and I need to do this asap.) I want to host a minecraft server, IPB forums for now. Thanks I really appreciate it!
Feld0 Posted July 24, 2012 Posted July 24, 2012 If you aren't familiar with running a VPS, then I'd strongly suggest that you find a good managed host, because they'll harden the server and be ready to answer questions like these for you. This sounds like you've found an unmanaged provider, especially for the specs (6 GB of guaranteed RAM and 300 GB of disk space is quite a bit in the VPS world). Have you ever used shared hosting before? If you have, you have likely run into the industry-standard control panel called cPanel. It's extremely easy to use and does 95% of the technical work involved in setting up and maintaining your server. You can purchase a cPanel license and install it on your own VPS - mind you, it will come at an additional cost. Your host may offer cPanel licenses; if they don't, you can purchase one from here.Kloxo is another hosting control panel much like cPanel; but unlike the latter, it's free. I've never used it personally, but it does have its fans. Doesn't look nearly as slick and easy as cPanel, but it gets the same job done at the end of the day. You could give it a shot and see if it works for you; installation instructions are available on their website. Mind you, because Kloxo isn't commercial software, support from the developers may be a bit more difficult to get in the event that something goes wrong. Once you have the control panel of your choice set up, create a hosting account for your forum and follow IP.Board's documentation to install it. IPS will also be happy to install it for you if you give them access to the account via ticket. As for your Minecraft server, there are plenty of guides available on setting one of those up. Here's just one of them. If you'd prefer to do less "dirty work" to get it running, there are Minecraft-specific control panels available as well, like Multicraft and McMyAdmin.
Grumpy Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 I also recommend you to go with cPanel instead of Kloxo. It is costly, but it's just so much more intuitive and I think that's the biggest thing if you're new & has so much bigger community, so you can easily search when you need help. cPanel will auto install all the components you need for IPB to get running. So, install cpanel -> make user account (where your IPB will run from because you don't want to run it from root) -> upload IPB to account -> make empty database with user -> follow IPB instructions. And if you want to install anything further, there's something called easyapache in cpanel that works like your GUI installation tool. Just tick and voila~ :P (though, recompiling php is horribly time consuming). If you buy cpanel from your hosting, they should install it for you. If you buy license elsewhere, you'll need to upload and follow cpanel instructions just like kloxo. HOWEVER!!! Minecraft is a resource hog. Hosting your website and minecraft together may not be a very good idea. cPanel is also a memory hog. So, you're put 2 hogs in 1 spot. If you want to squeeze the most out of your system, I suggest you go free of any control panel. Just install yourself apache/mysql/etc from minimum OS.
AlexJ Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 Price : $59.99/month U could get dedicated server in that price. Unmanaged. So no point in getting VPS over 60$. As all said Minecraft is nasty application. It will eat your HD I/O and RAM big time. One add on goes bad and their goes 100% CPU usage.
Grumpy Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 U could get dedicated server in that price. Unmanaged. So no point in getting VPS over 60$. If he gets a dedicated...There will be more aspects to manage by him and reduced assistance from host. cPanel price will likely exit his budget. It won't be easy to find 6GB of ram for $60 from a dedi with exception of few ultra-budget providers. If the vps node isn't overloaded, the vps is more likely to have higher performance output. The vps node is likely (99% chance) on raid, while raid (even raid 1) for $60 will be very hard to get.
AlexJ Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 If he gets a dedicated...There will be more aspects to manage by him and reduced assistance from host. cPanel price will likely exit his budget. It won't be easy to find 6GB of ram for $60 from a dedi with exception of few ultra-budget providers. If the vps node isn't overloaded, the vps is more likely to have higher performance output. The vps node is likely (99% chance) on raid, while raid (even raid 1) for $60 will be very hard to get. - We all need to learn once a while. Their are managed dedicated servers too but it cost high. Better get unmanaged and higher professional once a while to set it up. - IMO If you are going to host one or few websites managed by one person, why u need cPanel? I believe since I moved from shared to dedicated server, I have never used cPanel. Never needed one in fact if you ask me. - No, you can get 6GB RAM easy with off shore hosting. Their are very good providers in 60$ range. - "If" it's not overloaded? What if it is? And do note, it's OpenVZ and not Xen.- You can get RAID 1 with 60$ price. You are not considering 'CPU' benefits of dedicated server.
Feld0 Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 If he gets a dedicated...There will be more aspects to manage by him and reduced assistance from host. cPanel price will likely exit his budget. It won't be easy to find 6GB of ram for $60 from a dedi with exception of few ultra-budget providers. If the vps node isn't overloaded, the vps is more likely to have higher performance output. The vps node is likely (99% chance) on raid, while raid (even raid 1) for $60 will be very hard to get. - We all need to learn once a while. Their are managed dedicated servers too but it cost high. Better get unmanaged and higher professional once a while to set it up. - IMO If you are going to host one or few websites managed by one person, why u need cPanel? I believe since I moved from shared to dedicated server, I have never used cPanel. Never needed one in fact if you ask me. - No, you can get 6GB RAM easy with off shore hosting. Their are very good providers in 60$ range. - "If" it's not overloaded? What if it is? And do note, it's [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]OpenVZ and not Xen.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]- You can get RAID 1 with 60$ price. [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]You are not considering 'CPU' benefits of dedicated server. [/font][/color] I don't think we can make a call on whether Crimsawn is better off with a dedicated server or VPS without knowing a little more about the size of the IP.Board site and Minecraft server he is hosting. :rofl: Dedicated has its place and time - and don't get me wrong, it's an awesome way to host - but VPS is much more economical if your site isn't too large yet. Speaking from personal experience, I was able to run some reasonably substantial stuff on a VPS with 5 GB of RAM, including several websites and a Minecraft server. cPanel will happily run even on a server with 768 MB of RAM; so although it does use substantially more resources than a raw LAMP stack, I doubt it'll be an issue when the OP has 6 GB of RAM at his disposal. You don't necessarily need cPanel to run a few websites that are all owned by yourself, but it does streamline a lot of tasks, especially if the number of sites you're running goes up from "a few" to the double (or even triple!) digits. The ability to shuffle entire sites (databases, DNS records, and all) between servers with the click of a button alone is worth it at that point.
Overflowing Posted July 25, 2012 Author Posted July 25, 2012 Thanks for the replies guys. I just ended up getting a dedi server. here are the specs Intel core i5 4x2.66 ghz Ram: 16GB 2TB space Fully managed Free plesk for 1 domain free $149 first month, $125 per month. It's much more but I got people who are going to help me with funds just that I'm funding it first. Going to have to learn how to use plesk panel and they say it's fully managed going to be a 1 day setup, I'm looking forward to it. Planning to host Minecraft, Team fortress 2, teamspeak, forums, l4d2, killing floor and other game servers hopefully in the future
raindog308 Posted July 31, 2012 Posted July 31, 2012 You don't necessarily [u]need[/u] cPanel to run a few websites that are all owned by yourself, That's an understatement :-) cPanel is oriented at non-technical people who want to manage their hosting (or self-hosting). For that purpose, it does a good job. but it does streamline a lot of tasks, especially if the number of sites you're running goes up from "a few" to the double (or even triple!) digits. The ability to shuffle entire sites (databases, DNS records, and all) between servers with the click of a button alone is worth it at that point. On the other hand, I find cPanel gets in the way at that point as it's easier to script things. However, it really depends on the depth of the user's systems administration experience.
Velvet Elvis Posted August 1, 2012 Posted August 1, 2012 On the other hand, I find cPanel gets in the way at that point as it's easier to script things. However, it really depends on the depth of the user's systems administration experience. After running Debian as my desktop OS for five years I was able to hit the ground running with a Linode running debian and no SA experience at all. The advantages of running the same OS on your server and desktop are huge, not the least of which is the ability to use sshfs to mount your server as if it's a local disk partition.
ZackL Posted August 2, 2012 Posted August 2, 2012 I haven't tried it myself, but I'd recommend lighttpd over apache as it feels lighter-weight, and simpler, than apache. I haven't actually tested it as I haven't been bothered to migrate any of my websites to my vps(es) yet. lol The config also allows for mysql vhosts in case you want to script adding new websites to your server. (although I'm sure apache has a similiar module) p.s. I recommend http://www.smart-serv.net as a (xen) hosting provider. Small company, but that doesn't mean they're bad. You get nearly personal (as personal as you can get not knowing someone) assistance with anything and their policies are lenient in terms of bandwidth and late payments. I wouldn't run any minecraft servers off their vpses though, depending on the size of the minecraft server. Be sure to request to be put on their LA node!
GIANT_CRAB Posted August 5, 2012 Posted August 5, 2012 Intel core i5 4x2.66 ghz Ram: 16GB 2TB space Fully managed Free plesk for 1 domain free Planning to host Minecraft, Team fortress 2, teamspeak, forums, l4d2, killing floor and other game servers hopefully in the future Quad cores can't handle so many games. You won't want to stress your server too much.
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