[Suggestions] Several very important addons

[Davidcopperfield]

Could you tell if below functions are available or will be scheduled to be written?
Firstly, what is even more important is to insert two functions of and Main ADMINISTRATOR whose power would be over whole
forum and minor ADMINISTRATOR that would manage only certain subforum; f. ex. let us suppose that I manage many
groups of students. Each university/college could have their own administrator to change the graphics in their area
of forum to manage Moderators and so on Minor Aministrator ACP would have executions' limitations to one or several
subforums- Excelent when merging a couple of forums. No-one feels downgraded. This Administrator outside the manageable area would be avarage user with no privileges.
The Main Admibnistrator ,could of course, manage every nook of the whole forum board.

Secondly, advanced communities have already sut up a mail list. My idea is to add function to IPB that could enable displaying the
contents of the list form the level of the member that belongs to certain group. Then you other communities may set up
their own parallel lists visible only to logged in members belonging to this group. The main Administrator obviously would see
all lists unless not given password from certain group.

Thridly, on incorporating above modules you may try to create another one which will focus on delivering instant games-
peer-to-peer such as chess and draughts and some card games. Such module would be another componet of your services.
All my propositions are debatable, nevertheless me having been active on some forums have spotted such shortcoming

Fourthly, some university communities might be in need of displaying their works and papers using code, formulas which are intrinsic
to maths, phisics, chemistry and overall science. So new buttons and options may be available.
All in all your boards being equipped with such tools would really be perceived as downright unique, original and prominent among competition.

Fifthly, CMS and portal advanced solution. Through use of templates you would change already egzisting site, which could be added in Portal or CMS- all of these would be chargeable using ACP.

Sixtly, would it be possible to use diverse colors in different sections fo.ex in organisational stuff brown and in joke area pink or other azure or light blue.

Sevently, we need a Mod that installs other mods. I mean a addo-ns where you simply put/attach the files and it installs it for you hassle-free.

This will make your product unrivalled, thorough and complete; communities using your software wille have great time. If you fulfiil my suggestions you will have very reliable customer :) AEGEE The IPS ought to be the only place to download stable and reliable mods for customers otherwise forums may work inproper.
Looking forward to receiving an answer if above is possible.
Thank you

[Davidcopperfield]

Sorry but I feel that it should be refreshed. Please merge this post with the previous one.

[Davidcopperfield]

I would like somebody from code-writting team answer my suggestions ;)
I would be grateful

[Dlf]

5. A CMS is comming. it's in alpha and I think ONLY the customers have access to test it. as for staff replying; not very likely.

[Grant]

Firstly, what is even more important is to insert two functions of and Main ADMINISTRATOR whose power would be over whole

forum and minor ADMINISTRATOR that would manage only certain subforum; f. ex. let us suppose that I manage many

groups of students. Each university/college could have their own administrator to change the graphics in their area

of forum to manage Moderators and so on Minor Aministrator ACP would have executions' limitations to one or several

subforums- Excelent when merging a couple of forums. No-one feels downgraded. This Administrator outside the manageable area would be avarage user with no privileges.

The Main Admibnistrator ,could of course, manage every nook of the whole forum board.

There is already a feature in development in IPB that allows this. It would have been in 2.1, but it was postponed.

Secondly, advanced communities have already sut up a mail list. My idea is to add function to IPB that could enable displaying the

contents of the list form the level of the member that belongs to certain group. Then you other communities may set up

their own parallel lists visible only to logged in members belonging to this group. The main Administrator obviously would see

all lists unless not given password from certain group.

I really see no point in this...

Thridly, on incorporating above modules you may try to create another one which will focus on delivering instant games-

peer-to-peer such as chess and draughts and some card games. Such module would be another componet of your services.

All my propositions are debatable, nevertheless me having been active on some forums have spotted such shortcoming

I like this idea, however, it should be left as a MOD. IPS makes the forum software with the ability to incorperate features into its code without touching source code. You could have someone write something like this for you.

Fourthly, some university communities might be in need of displaying their works and papers using code, formulas which are intrinsic

to maths, phisics, chemistry and overall science. So new buttons and options may be available.

All in all your boards being equipped with such tools would really be perceived as downright unique, original and prominent among competition.

That is a very good idea, but this would take a good deal of work to write into IPB. I highly doubt Matt will incoperate this into IPB.

Fifthly, CMS and portal advanced solution. Through use of templates you would change already egzisting site, which could be added in Portal or CMS- all of these would be chargeable using ACP.

They are already developing a CMS software. I believe IPB can be integrated into it, as a plugin, but I cannot be sure. It is in APLHA stages, so it won't be long before BETA and then releasing the FINAL.

Sixtly, would it be possible to use diverse colors in different sections fo.ex in organisational stuff brown and in joke area pink or other azure or light blue.

This feature is already avalible. You would just need to create the images for the different colors and apply the skins to the different forums.

Sevently, we need a Mod that installs other mods. I mean a addo-ns where you simply put/attach the files and it installs it for you hassle-free.

They are already discussing this feature. Im sure something will be included, but it might be up to the developers to write modules into the Module Loader and then create installs for it. Something like the gallery Mods and Blog Mods.

[Wolfie]

Could you tell if below functions are available or will be scheduled to be written?

Sure

Firstly, what is even more important is to insert two functions of and Main ADMINISTRATOR whose power would be over whole

forum and minor ADMINISTRATOR that would manage only certain subforum; f. ex. let us suppose that I manage many

groups of students. Each university/college could have their own administrator to change the graphics in their area

of forum to manage Moderators and so on Minor Aministrator ACP would have executions' limitations to one or several

subforums- Excelent when merging a couple of forums. No-one feels downgraded. This Administrator outside the manageable area would be avarage user with no privileges.

The Main Admibnistrator ,could of course, manage every nook of the whole forum board.

To a small degree that is already possible. Forum moderators can control forums that they are assigned to (or as you refer, subforums).

With v2.1, it would be slightly possible to do what you are asking for. An overall member base can be used, and then each 'university/college' could use that central memberbase. However, I think you may have meant each department within a university/college. Works either way, but it's called coverge(?), which will indirectly make what you are asking for.

Secondly, advanced communities have already sut up a mail list. My idea is to add function to IPB that could enable displaying the

contents of the list form the level of the member that belongs to certain group. Then you other communities may set up

their own parallel lists visible only to logged in members belonging to this group. The main Administrator obviously would see

all lists unless not given password from certain group.

Again, indirectly, this is already available. Person belongs to a group, then an admin can send out mass emails. No need to have a mailing list, just have a person to be a member of a group. Anything else more special than that and you can check out the resource sites and ask for it to be done for you.

Thridly, on incorporating above modules you may try to create another one which will focus on delivering instant games-

peer-to-peer such as chess and draughts and some card games. Such module would be another componet of your services.

All my propositions are debatable, nevertheless me having been active on some forums have spotted such shortcoming

Fourthly, some university communities might be in need of displaying their works and papers using code, formulas which are intrinsic

to maths, phisics, chemistry and overall science. So new buttons and options may be available.

All in all your boards being equipped with such tools would really be perceived as downright unique, original and prominent among competition.

Both of these are better off as mods.

(3)Not all forums add on or like to have pre-attached games.

(4)The scripting involved for that sort of a feature/function would exceed the general population use.

Fifthly, CMS and portal advanced solution. Through use of templates you would change already egzisting site, which could be added in Portal or CMS- all of these would be chargeable using ACP.

IPD (Invision Power Dynamic) is already in the works, and I believe an estimated release (perhaps beta) I think is expected by the end of the year.

Sixtly, would it be possible to use diverse colors in different sections fo.ex in organisational stuff brown and in joke area pink or other azure or light blue.

It's called skinning. Check out the resource sites, there are plenty of skins available, many of them for free. (And wouldn't it be 'sixthly'?)

Sevently, we need a Mod that installs other mods. I mean a addo-ns where you simply put/attach the files and it installs it for you hassle-free.

Already being discussed, but I doubt it'll be a pre-included feature. (And wouldn't it be 'seventhly'?)

This will make your product unrivalled, thorough and complete; communities using your software wille have great time. If you fulfiil my suggestions you will have very reliable customer :)

Many of us feel that way with the feature suggestions that we come up with. The only one that you have mentioned that I think is worth-while is the subforum management concept, which others have been asking for as well.

The IPS ought to be the only place to download stable and reliable mods for customers otherwise forums may work inproper.

When you install a third party mod, the risk is always there and it's always at your own risk. IPS has taken the time to put together a list of recommended IPB mod & unofficial-support sites.

Looking forward to receiving an answer if above is possible.

Even if any of it were (or is), very few of the suggestions here get official answers, at least very few in favor of the suggestions.

Thank you

You're welcome.

IPS resource list: http://www.invisionboard.com/?resources

[Davidcopperfield]

Again, indirectly, this is already available. Person belongs to a group, then an admin can send out mass emails. No need to have a mailing list, just have a person to be a member of a group. Anything else more special than that and you can check out the resource sites and ask for it to be done for you.

You are right as long as the mailing groups appear with the forum, however I experience the situation when the mailing lists already exist and will not be substituted with the mass mail.
My point is that we need a mod that enables mailing listy inscription- it means that you could both receive mails from that already existing list within the forum itself and reply them. A solution for discussion lists or alternatively (if the group wish so) administrator could create a topic where all emails would appear and jus tto reply an e-mail you would write a post and it wille be sent automatically without you having to log into your mail box :) :thumbsup:

ps. Anotjher thign what aobut LIVE UPDATE feature, it means you simply click on "UPFATE" and the forum upgrades itself :)??

[Davidcopperfield]

I would like Matt to express his mind and opjnion on my propositions. :)

[Wolfie]

My point is that we need a mod that enables mailing listy inscription- it means that you could both receive mails from that already existing list within the forum itself and reply them. A solution for discussion lists or alternatively (if the group wish so) administrator could create a topic where all emails would appear and jus tto reply an e-mail you would write a post and it wille be sent automatically without you having to log into your mail box :) :thumbsup:

ps. Anotjher thign what aobut LIVE UPDATE feature, it means you simply click on "UPFATE" and the forum upgrades itself :)??

That could get messy, and for IPB 2.0.x, I think someone may have made a mod to do that.

For the live updates, that could cause more problems than it helps to get rid of. It's an idea already tossed around and it hasn't gotten too many favorable responses.

I would like Matt to express his mind and opjnion on my propositions. :)

I doubt he will, but I agree, it would be nice. Would be nice for any of the suggestions, really. :lol:

[tranceandy]

I really don't think he would have the time to reply to them :lol:

[Davidcopperfield]

I really don't think he would have the time to reply to them :lol:

IPS won't develop unless scrpting team answers all suggestions like presales questions!!

[Wolfie]

IPS has developed though.

Besides, if staff answered all of them, this forum would quickly turn from a suggestion forum into a debate forum.

I do admit it would be nice if some of them were to get answered, like once in awhile, just so that we know they are reading them and what ideas they think are good or not. (Not an indication if it will or won't be added though).

[Davidcopperfield]

They ought to do like in Pre-Sales questions where everything get answered by technicians.

[tranceandy]

What they need is company represantitives that can give customers responses like in this forum :)

The technicians are too busy answering support requests I would imagine :unsure:

[Wolfie]

Since Matt is the primary IPB programmer (and likely the ONLY one), he's the one that plays a big part in deciding what does and does not go into the new versions. If he were to take his time to reply to each and every request, he'd never get IPB made.

[Davidcopperfield]

So he ought to get somebody answered the propositions, otherwise the proposition section has no sense in further existence- it is just our chatter and no-one ever sees it.

[Wolfie]

Matt reads it... But let's stop and think about it. Matt is the primary one to decide what does and does not go into the next release. Therefore he should be the one to answer. However if he spends his time answering here, then he won't have time to program it.

Let's say that someone else was answering though...
** If a staff member approves, agrees or otherwise hints that a suggestion will appear in the next release, then people might start really piling onto that one feature to the point that it becomes outrageous.

** If a staff member shoots an idea down, disagrees, disapproves, etc, then someone might feel strongly about their idea and start arguing for it, ergo, cause problems and fights. (Some people feel strongly about their ideas and don't like taking "no" for an answer)

Some ideas I could see getting a response, such as those who request features such as a store (RPG style), then an automated reply closing the thread saying that the "request is not in the nature of the overall forum and best left as a mod" would be helpful.

Believe me, I honestly would love to see the topics get staff responses, but I know that overall, it's not feasible. Don't get me wrong, I'm not discouraging you from hoping for a response, just don't want you to expect it either. If you want a response to something specific, then you *could* try posting in the Company Product and Services Feedback - you're more likely to get a response there. :)

[Davidcopperfield]

If you are a client you could post there and more attention will be drwn to you as someone using it. One thing propositions cannot be resolved as a mod, as the mods are proccessed roughly and not scroupulously :( and will pose a threat to your board balance. Many features should be implemented in the board and constituing, by the advantage, adsvertisement of "multitaskness" proiduct. :)

[rheaton]

On the subject of IPS staff commenting on and addressing all the submission and suggestions of customers I will simply point out the old saying that an Elephant is a mouse designed by comittee.

If IPS were to take each and every suggestion made here, and the counter suggestions, sub-suggestions, etc, ad nauseum, you would end up with a piece of bloated software that did everything but was virtually useless to the average person as they could never figure out how to use it.

You'd also end up with 'feature creep'. That distrubing process by which features are added endlessly, extending development times and resulting in the virtual impossibility of completing the process.

never mind the sad truth that if Customer #1's idea is taken and not implemented EXACTLY as they hoped it would be you have a problem in the making. And let's not forget that Customer #2 would be terribly put out that his suggestion wasn't taken at all. Now instead of two happy customers who wished things could be changed a bit (and can through mods), you have 2 unhappy customers. Not a very good policy.

[Davidcopperfield]

And let's not forget that Customer #2 would be terribly put out that his suggestion wasn't taken at all. Now instead of two happy customers who wished things could be changed a bit (and can through mods), you have 2 unhappy customers. Not a very good policy.

Through mods- so for instance some suggestions ( those crucial but resticted to certain communities- scientist) ought to be produced by IPS not by adolescents that usually do them by themselves not being exact and persistent so assuming that way of thinking:
- Mod adding special buttons and functions for maths, chemistry and phisics and creating bar charts let out by teenager, that simply did it just superficially and inaccurate becauce of lack of specialistic knowledge in those fields, would ,for sure, dimish the whole appearance reputation of IPS unless such time-consuming and specific modifications will be done by IPS.
IPS should construct some mods, endorse and leave them to be downloaded only by them, who really wish them. They should open special departemnt with mods exclusively accessible for customers. I cannot imagine thet teenagers from all over the world would take up such serious mod on open-source basis- I know phpBB to much.
What do you think of it?
ps. Additionaly buying products and IPB you could choose wchich addons to implement automatically at the time of purchasing. The file would be equipped with those addons. Of course IPS would decide what features they would tackle as a separate mod and wchich would be implemented. To put it in a nutshell- if I pay much money for professional software, I would not be inclined to use mods sites- you cannot always trust them especially when you manage serious community- firms, enterprices.
What do you think of it?

[Davidcopperfield]

Mistakeanelly written sory I took different buttons by mistake

[tom-riddle]

Fourthly, some university communities might be in need of displaying their works and papers using code, formulas which are intrinsic to maths, phisics, chemistry and overall science. So new buttons and options may be available.

Please don't get me wrong 'cause I don't mean to be rude or anything, but I don't think most of this suggestions are very important as you stated in the topic title. Most of them, the one above is an example, are specific needs only you, or just a few, have. IPS is a business, and has to focus on the general needs of their entire customer base. IMO they probably won't invest their time in minor features that the majority of their customers are not interested. I believe they have more important things to work on right now.

Your best bet is to hire someone else to add this things for you, if you really need them. IPB's license allow you to modify the software to fit your needs, and there are plenty of companies that offer services such as custom skins and mods for IPB.

Regards,

[Davidcopperfield]

but I don't think most of this suggestions are very important as you stated in the topic title. Most of them, the one above is an example, are specific needs only you, or just a few, have.

Not to the extent you are implying- there are many od clients being in need of such ammenities. I don;t know if you clearly understood this suggestion- it would just add some new features to the already changed "posting window". Many of us do use IPB for serious matters (we- customers- need to depict, show chart bars and other pictures) , thus such addon could be implemented or alternatively left as a mod but created by IPS not by invisionize-sth dot com.
It would increase the general use of IPB. It os like addind the different background or fonts

Your best bet is to hire someone else to add this things for you, if you really need them.

It is too complicated feature alongside with other which I proposed and with a view to being worthwhile and fulfill high standards they should be manufactured by IPS :)

[Davidcopperfield]

Refreshment
If we are to be scrupulous even in-line moderatation and multimoderation could be distributed as a mod, however it isn't. It is only development and progress which make IPS unique. :), thus many mods could be implemented as feature. I am bound to agree that much work to "wade through", but the features will work as advertisement this same as multimoderation- for. ex I do not utilise it.

[Davidcopperfield]

Refreshment for interested :thumbsup: