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    Vroom got a reaction from *José Antonio in why were <br> converted to <p> in old posts?   
    After upgrading I noticed that old posts converted every line break <br> into a <p> tag. I understand the use of the <p> tags, but a <br> is not the same thing and it wasn't used as a paragraph in old posts, why convert it to a paragraph. Why not leave it as a single line break? The problem is if you had posts like this (using line breaks):
    Little baby Oh so small 
    One day you will be big and tall
    I watch you while you laugh and play 
    My love for you grows everyday 
    I tell you this with my whole heart
    I love you just the way you are
    Now it looks like this:
    Little baby Oh so small 
    One day you will be big and tall
    I watch you while you laugh and play 
    My love for you grows everyday 
    I tell you this with my whole heart
    I love you just the way you are
     
    Changing the <p> margin isn't a solution because other posts have correctly used the <p> tag as a paragraph, so if you change the margin to zero you break all those post's formating.
    Now I have to choose which messages I want to look terrible, the majority of posts that used <p> tags, or a minority (but still tens of thousands) of messages where for some reason or another they used a line break to indicate a new line.
    I have been thinking of ways to fix it with mysql queries and have some untested idea how to do it, to restore the <br> tags, but what will happen to them in the future is my worry? What happens when someone replies to it, does the editor again convert the <br> into a <p> or does it leave it as is? In a future update will the posts again be converted to the <p> tag? Will the <br> tags spontaneously explode causing a chain reaction that could potentially destroy the entire universe and put an end to all known forms of life? There are very serious repercussions to consider before running mysql queries on your database.
    Note: I have upgraded through half a dozen forums going back to 1999 (anyone remember infopop?), so the root source of the <br> tags could be from softwares and ages long gone.
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    Vroom reacted to Michael Hochriegl in IPS 4.0: The current state of BBCode and its future. Is BBCODE officially abandoned?   
    The editor right now is pretty useless, you can´t reformat a post once you´ve submitted it because the sourcode is way to much HTML gibberish for normal users.
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    Vroom reacted to grinler in IPS 4.0: The current state of BBCode and its future. Is BBCODE officially abandoned?   
    Ralf based on what you have posted you do not understand our communities, why we need BBCode, and why BBCode is so important to us.  BBCode is not only important because it allows the same, if not more fine tuned, formatting as the IPS WYSIWYG editor, but more importantly because it's portable. A canned speech created for the WYSIWYG editor here on IPB may simply not be compatible at another forum where our users help at as well.  BBCode is important because it allows any canned speech to be portable between any other type of forum, almost all of which still support BBCode. 
    As stated by someone else, what you are telling us is to go straight to all our forum volunteers and tell them, that from now on, instead of using the same canned speeches that they use in all the XenForo, SMF, vBulletin and phpBB communities they participate in, they now have to duplicate all their efforts and maintain a special set of canned speeches just for us, because InvisionPower continues to break BBCode. When they ask why, I can tell them, because that is how the web works and if they disagree they are just stuck in the past and they probably wish Flash banners would come back.
    It's going to be great. Just watch!
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    Vroom got a reaction from rgf100 in IPS 4.0: The current state of BBCode and its future. Is BBCODE officially abandoned?   
    I find the html editor to be very difficult to use, as it creates the html in a single run on line which makes it almost impossible to read comfortably. The old system of BBCode was so much easier and cleaner. Do many people  really need the ability to write full html with javascripts and divs in a message post? Maybe one tenth of a percent of users could even utilize that.
    BBCode seems to be the safe and easy way to grant a basic source editor to all users. But having said that I don't think it will ever come back. Seeing the new editor my gut feeling is it is gone for ever.
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    Vroom got a reaction from lordi in took a visit to the vbulletin forum and was surprised   
    I have three vbulletin licenses (from when it was $285 each). Maybe somewhere I can trade them for a Winrar license.
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    Vroom got a reaction from socceronly in took a visit to the vbulletin forum and was surprised   
    I had upgraded to IPB from vbulletin a couple years ago when it was clear vbulletin was a sinking ship. I had used vbulletin for probably 10 years. When I decided to finally change over, I could see vbulletin was going down hill and was on the verge of disappearing. So I took the hard decision to abandon ship and find the best forum software available in the present times. At that time there was a lot of complaints about the vbulletin 5.0 which was supposed to come out "soon", and from the samples it was clear it was a piece of junk.
    So out of curiosity, yesterday I thought let me go check the vbulletin forums and see if anything is happening there. I was shocked that vbulletin 5 IS STILL NOT DONE. I mean it has been literally years, and they still haven't released the complete vbuletin suite in version 5.0. I feel sorry for anyone who didnt jump ship, and has actually been waiting literally years for the broken product to be usable. Anyway, I was just shocked that they are at the exact same position they were at a couple years ago when I left.
    Looking back, the best decision I ever made.
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    Vroom got a reaction from sijad in took a visit to the vbulletin forum and was surprised   
    I had upgraded to IPB from vbulletin a couple years ago when it was clear vbulletin was a sinking ship. I had used vbulletin for probably 10 years. When I decided to finally change over, I could see vbulletin was going down hill and was on the verge of disappearing. So I took the hard decision to abandon ship and find the best forum software available in the present times. At that time there was a lot of complaints about the vbulletin 5.0 which was supposed to come out "soon", and from the samples it was clear it was a piece of junk.
    So out of curiosity, yesterday I thought let me go check the vbulletin forums and see if anything is happening there. I was shocked that vbulletin 5 IS STILL NOT DONE. I mean it has been literally years, and they still haven't released the complete vbuletin suite in version 5.0. I feel sorry for anyone who didnt jump ship, and has actually been waiting literally years for the broken product to be usable. Anyway, I was just shocked that they are at the exact same position they were at a couple years ago when I left.
    Looking back, the best decision I ever made.
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    Vroom got a reaction from Marcher Technologies in took a visit to the vbulletin forum and was surprised   
    I had upgraded to IPB from vbulletin a couple years ago when it was clear vbulletin was a sinking ship. I had used vbulletin for probably 10 years. When I decided to finally change over, I could see vbulletin was going down hill and was on the verge of disappearing. So I took the hard decision to abandon ship and find the best forum software available in the present times. At that time there was a lot of complaints about the vbulletin 5.0 which was supposed to come out "soon", and from the samples it was clear it was a piece of junk.
    So out of curiosity, yesterday I thought let me go check the vbulletin forums and see if anything is happening there. I was shocked that vbulletin 5 IS STILL NOT DONE. I mean it has been literally years, and they still haven't released the complete vbuletin suite in version 5.0. I feel sorry for anyone who didnt jump ship, and has actually been waiting literally years for the broken product to be usable. Anyway, I was just shocked that they are at the exact same position they were at a couple years ago when I left.
    Looking back, the best decision I ever made.
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    Vroom got a reaction from Kevin Carwile in took a visit to the vbulletin forum and was surprised   
    I had upgraded to IPB from vbulletin a couple years ago when it was clear vbulletin was a sinking ship. I had used vbulletin for probably 10 years. When I decided to finally change over, I could see vbulletin was going down hill and was on the verge of disappearing. So I took the hard decision to abandon ship and find the best forum software available in the present times. At that time there was a lot of complaints about the vbulletin 5.0 which was supposed to come out "soon", and from the samples it was clear it was a piece of junk.
    So out of curiosity, yesterday I thought let me go check the vbulletin forums and see if anything is happening there. I was shocked that vbulletin 5 IS STILL NOT DONE. I mean it has been literally years, and they still haven't released the complete vbuletin suite in version 5.0. I feel sorry for anyone who didnt jump ship, and has actually been waiting literally years for the broken product to be usable. Anyway, I was just shocked that they are at the exact same position they were at a couple years ago when I left.
    Looking back, the best decision I ever made.
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    Vroom got a reaction from chilihead in took a visit to the vbulletin forum and was surprised   
    I had upgraded to IPB from vbulletin a couple years ago when it was clear vbulletin was a sinking ship. I had used vbulletin for probably 10 years. When I decided to finally change over, I could see vbulletin was going down hill and was on the verge of disappearing. So I took the hard decision to abandon ship and find the best forum software available in the present times. At that time there was a lot of complaints about the vbulletin 5.0 which was supposed to come out "soon", and from the samples it was clear it was a piece of junk.
    So out of curiosity, yesterday I thought let me go check the vbulletin forums and see if anything is happening there. I was shocked that vbulletin 5 IS STILL NOT DONE. I mean it has been literally years, and they still haven't released the complete vbuletin suite in version 5.0. I feel sorry for anyone who didnt jump ship, and has actually been waiting literally years for the broken product to be usable. Anyway, I was just shocked that they are at the exact same position they were at a couple years ago when I left.
    Looking back, the best decision I ever made.
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    Vroom got a reaction from AndyF in took a visit to the vbulletin forum and was surprised   
    I had upgraded to IPB from vbulletin a couple years ago when it was clear vbulletin was a sinking ship. I had used vbulletin for probably 10 years. When I decided to finally change over, I could see vbulletin was going down hill and was on the verge of disappearing. So I took the hard decision to abandon ship and find the best forum software available in the present times. At that time there was a lot of complaints about the vbulletin 5.0 which was supposed to come out "soon", and from the samples it was clear it was a piece of junk.
    So out of curiosity, yesterday I thought let me go check the vbulletin forums and see if anything is happening there. I was shocked that vbulletin 5 IS STILL NOT DONE. I mean it has been literally years, and they still haven't released the complete vbuletin suite in version 5.0. I feel sorry for anyone who didnt jump ship, and has actually been waiting literally years for the broken product to be usable. Anyway, I was just shocked that they are at the exact same position they were at a couple years ago when I left.
    Looking back, the best decision I ever made.
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