the new editor is bad.
it's inconsistent. it's wierd. it's annoying.
i mean, apart from the stuff like, not being able to use bbcode buttons when in simple mode,


when i want to edit my post, it doesn't work properly!
I click edit and it does not load the proper editor. it just has a text window. no border, no icons, and the save cancel buttons do not close the edit box.
sometimes when it does work, it doesn't remember my choice to use the simple editor, it uses this awful rte and i have to switch it back to simple and then it screws up the text. there is some weird code instead of some of the letters that were there before.
why have we been forced to use this new editor anyway?
what about legacy support? why not leave my simple editor alone and have this new fangled thing as an option. I don't want it. i don't want it to even load up if I don't wish to use it.
I just want the simple editor from 3.0
that was simple, robust and effective.
this new one is glitchy and unstable.

Yeah I have issues with the editor loading. It's quite annoying.

If you guys are experiencing slowness of posting from the editor, then it's either your Internet speed or your forum's host speed. The editor works fine. It was built for peoples ease. Maybe you guys are just not doing it right. Do you have WYSIWYG enabled?

If you guys are experiencing slowness of posting from the editor, then it's either your Internet speed or your forum's host speed. The editor works fine. It was built for peoples ease. Maybe you guys are just not doing it right. Do you have WYSIWYG enabled?

thanks for replies,
I've considered this but i do not believe this is the case.
I've tried waiting for considerable lengths of time and i've tried re-clicking the edit button.

if it is perhaps the case that it is slow loading, then fine, I will accept that, but what i would say then, is that the way this software works is insufficient if slow loading or bad connection will cause the edit box to half appear and result in a glitched box.

Are you providing feedback or asking for assistance? If asking for assistance, what version of IP.Board are you using? You might need to submit a ticket in the client area from the description of your first post.

Hi,
I guess i am providing feedback really, since i am requesting that the original editor be provided as an option (or as default) in the user control panel.
I would have preferred this new one not be introduced since the old one worked well.
but i do not see how I can satisfactorily get a 'bug fix' for the editor as I feel the whole editor itself is the problem.

further to that, I feel that it needs to be clear that the editor is not stable enough.
even if you do not provide the original editor for us to use, you should definitely make sure the new editor is stable and should not be prone to failure in loading up when the edit button is pressed.

I've moved the topic to the IP.Board Feedback forum where the developers can read your concerns with the new editor.

the new editor is bad.

it's inconsistent. it's wierd. it's annoying.

i mean, apart from the stuff like, not being able to use bbcode buttons when in simple mode,

when i want to edit my post, it doesn't work properly!

I click edit and it does not load the proper editor. it just has a text window. no border, no icons, and the save cancel buttons do not close the edit box.

sometimes when it does work, it doesn't remember my choice to use the simple editor, it uses this awful rte and i have to switch it back to simple and then it screws up the text. there is some weird code instead of some of the letters that were there before.

why have we been forced to use this new editor anyway?

what about legacy support? why not leave my simple editor alone and have this new fangled thing as an option. I don't want it. i don't want it to even load up if I don't wish to use it.

I just want the simple editor from 3.0

that was simple, robust and effective.

this new one is glitchy and unstable.

in all honesty... I Know the reasoning was not having to continue development of an in-house editor... but Given The Option... I Would NEVER use the CKE.... WYSIWYG Editors .... Just never seem to work exactly right.

agreed. I was happy with the simple editor with the bbcode inserting buttons.
it didn't require 'loading up' and was very simple and robust.

Kessler, thanks for moving the topic.

just to be clear, I have no love for the old RTE. if the CKE is replacing the old rich text editor, that's fine by me because i never used it.
for wysiwyg editors, do whatever you like and it makes no difference to me,
if you have a simple editor as a foundation and optionally layer whatever wysiwyg editor on top of that, then that works for me.

agreed. I was happy with the simple editor with the bbcode inserting buttons.

it didn't require 'loading up' and was very simple and robust.

Kessler, thanks for moving the topic.

just to be clear, I have no love for the old RTE. if the CKE is replacing the old rich text editor, that's fine by me because i never used it.

for wysiwyg editors, do whatever you like and it makes no difference to me,

if you have a simple editor as a foundation and optionally layer whatever wysiwyg editor on top of that, then that works for me.

precisely my point... in 3.1.x i would have never touched the RTE with a yardstick... now we are ALL FORCED into using one.

i mean, apart from the stuff like, not being able to use bbcode buttons when in simple mode,

This.

This.

yeah... id be happy to stay in simple mode if i didnt have to type out
e v e r y
b b c o d e
m a n u a l l y.
and itd be nice if the "swap" between did not break them(try placing 2 urls on one line and swap... yeah>.<).

Is the Std. editor supposed to work this way now (without operational bbcode buttons), or is it still under development?

I'd like to add additional info.

I just tried uploading a image to my post that i had written. the flash uploader didn't work so I clicked to switch it to the basic uploader.
hey presto, my post was gone!
i clicked back button as I would have in the past to find my post text to copy and paste it. it was not there.
i thought, maybe this ajax thing had saved my post as it is supposed to, that's supposed to be a new feature to save posts to prevent losing them, i looked for the ajax reload thing, it was not there. i refreshed the page. it was not there. the ajax thing had not worked.
I completely lost my post.
in the past, this would not have happened. I could have clicked back and the standard editor would have had cached post in my browser memory. now with this new editor which is specifically designed to prevent post data loss, this is the first time I have EVER lost my post.

the irony is quite apparent in that the system you employed to prevent post loss actually CAUSED my post loss.

Well I'd like to know which avenue should I take (a ticket?), because my constant problem with post editing is this...
I click on "Edit" button and I get this:



Just plain BBCode, no toolbar, bottom buttons do nothing when clicked on.
Actually I've noticed that after clicking "Save Changes" button changes are made. I can see them after refreshing the page, but I can't really work like this.

I'll say again what I said before....CKEditor simply sucks.

Well I'd like to know which avenue should I take (a ticket?), because my constant problem with post editing is this...

I click on "Edit" button and I get this:

Just plain BBCode, no toolbar, bottom buttons do nothing when clicked on.

Actually I've noticed that after clicking "Save Changes" button changes are made. I can see them after refreshing the page, but I can't really work like this.

I'll say again what I said before....CKEditor simply sucks.

That's almost certainly not a problem with the editor, it sounds more like you have some javascript not loading. That'd either be due to not having all of the proper files uploaded, a browser cache issue, or an incorrect skin edit.

agreed... ive seen oddities with auto-save stalling the Save Changes "pop"(it sends and saves changes, but doesn't reflect it sans-refresh) but THAT goes a ways beyond the cke itself.

That'd either be due to not having all of the proper files uploaded, a browser cache issue, or an incorrect skin edit.

I don't even know what to say since it doesn't happen every time.
For instance I just tried same post again and edit page loaded just fine. Go figure.

broni, the same thing has happened to me here a number of times. Using Chrome 14.

Had the issue here on this forum on more than several times while using Safari. Likely a bug that needs to added to the tracker.

broni, good illustration.
that is the issue i described. so more people are having that issue for sure.
it's not right.
even saying that js files are not loaded properly or it is a browser cache issue?
well it should not be the responsibility of the end user to make their computer adjust to IPB. IPB should be adjusting to fit the end user.
it's simply not good enough to say the files are not loading correctly etc.
if the forum administrator uploaded all files and ran the installer and it threw up no error messages, then we must assume the system is working as intended. or that the software is inadequate.

the issue may well go past CKE as was suggested, but let us ask the question, did any of these things happen before CKE? no.

in fact, I ought to make it very clear, I never even visited these support forums before IPB 3.2, didn't need to.
this should be a very clear indication that something is horribly wrong.

also consider the fact that for the first time EVER, I have seriously considered switching forum software.

the issue may well go past CKE as was suggested, but let us ask the question, did any of these things happen before CKE? no.

They absolutely did, the editor has always been a problematic part of the software.

They absolutely did, the editor has always been a problematic part of the software.

perhaps i need to elaborate.
did any of these things happen to me or very often before CKE? no.
I never came across any issues with the editor and i never heard anyone else complain about it.

not 24 hours after i installed 3.2, I had a complaint from a member because he couldn't paste text with his right click menu.

They absolutely did, the editor has always been a problematic part of the software.

hold on, sorry to double post, but i believe i gave you too much quarter.
before CKE, the editor absolutely did not present an empty box without buttons.
it didn't prevent people from pasting with the right click menu.
the editor did not empty the browser cache of the text box when clicking forward and back.
the simple editor did not force us to manually type the bbcode.

these issues that are being outlined about the CKE editor absolutely DID NOT happen before CKE. that['s pretty much THE POINT.
yes there has always been issues with editors, (when does software not have minor issues?), but the point was that these issues are brought with this new editor and seem to be far more prevalent.

_{(by the way, I just copied my post using ctrl+c and clicked on a link on this page. when i clicked back, my post was gone. with the old editor, the post would have still been there. i pasted with ctrl+v to get my post back. I should note, i would not have been able to paste my post if i did not know the keyboard shortcut. many people don't. )}

it didn't prevent people from pasting with the right click menu.

It doesn't. I can right click in the editor fine.