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Oh, well yeah that would make sense. When I originally requested an optional renewal I was under the impression it would still expire when it was suppose to. Problem with the automatic renewal is it's been confusing our customers if they purchase a feature for a day because the renewal generates immediately. I would be great if it still expired but renewals were option. That way you can purchase say 1 week and it will expire by itself and the customer doesnt have to worry about renewals.

Problem is I think IPS knows that. That's why they're slowly making it more taxing to be self hosting to push you over.

No, it just remained on the error. I had to go to the api section manually and the instructions appeared.

With renewals turned off, it doesn't seem that files are being unfeatured when the time runs out.

Still getting the same issue. Do I have to do anything special to get it to work? Disregard. I found the steps when going to the restapi section now. All sorted

@Adriano Faria Thanks for that. I requested my review be taken down so I can post a revised one. 🙂

When I try to enable Zapier in integrations I'm met with: 3C414/1 Zapier needs to use the REST API to communicate with your community, but there is currently an issue with your REST API setup. Visit the REST & OAuth page to learn more and fix this issue. I checked over the REST API section and I have nothing created there. What do I need to do to get this to work?

Are there any restrictions? Because I've tried testing referrals by clicking link, registering and then purchasing something to not avail. Credit is never given

So what happens after they register, if they continue to use your referral will you keep making commission from sales?

How exactly does referrals work? It seems to be incredibly random whether or not it gives you credit for the referral. Do you have to be registered first, or can you click a referral link, register, purchase and get credit? Can you add a referral code to the end of any url?

Bit disappointed I have to share this info publicly so I'll keep it brief. Using inspect element you can modify text beyond what is allowed through the editor. This shouldn't happen imo and can be easily used to deface websites if used maliciously. Here's some of the "best" case scenarios this is used for. The worst case should be pretty obvious by now. Here is an example, using background color despite the editor not having the option. Even worse, I can set font size to a ridiculous size, thousands of times higher than what the editor even allows.

Any chance on reverting this? This is such an awful change, and seems more of a fix-all rather than an actual solution.

@Matt That is a step in the right direction. Still doesn't take the burden off the price hike, but it certainly gives more people the option to only renew when they need to. So potential for money savings in the long term. I'd also recommend adding an option to make a thread in the support section "staff only" in case it contains sensitive information.

Sorry, but I find that very hard to believe. Then again, most of what has been said by IPS staff in this thread is pretty unrealistic. Moral of the story is, this is a tactical push to evolve completely into a SaaS service. Might even save you some time and money just to refund all of the self license purchases and get rid of it entirely. I'm pretty disappointed you haven't realized this was a huge mistake, and haven't taken steps to accommodate anyone you've blatantly hurt by these, I'll say it, malicious changes. It's clear this was not a "communication" issue, rather a stunt to prevent anyone from renewing prior to the price hike. It's also clear the changes to self hosting prices had nothing to do with betterment of the software, rather an excuse to push people to cloud hosting. It's also clear the reason for yearly renewals was to prevent customers from selectively renewing only when they actually need to. Not because "it would confuse customers." Yeah, confuse customers with the same model you've had for the past 10 years... We aren't that gullible. I'll stick around, but I'm not going to renew until there's drastic changes, and I'll avoid using the marketplace from now on and work directly with 3rd party developers to make sure they're being taken care of. I can't express enough how disappointed I am.

You have 27,256 active paying clients and only 15 staff (that we know of). Let's not pretend you're struggling here. Just for fun... Let's assume all 27,256 (All clients who have renewed in the past 6 months) are paying the lowest possible, self hosted, forum license only. $80 a year / 12 equals $6.66 a month x 27,256 equals $181,524.96 a month and $2,178.299.52 a year before expenses. Enough to give 21 employees a 6 figure salary a year. This of course is the lowest possible income for all current clients and assumes all of them only have a single license. I am pretty confident your income is twice, if not triple that.

I know I've contributed well enough to this thread, so I'll end on this note. You're very clearly out of touch with your customer base. If you think we're just going to "get over it" while you're mocking us by advertising cloud hosting, you're mistaken. You're going to lose the majority of clients that kept the marketplace alive, and following that the developers you've repeatedly hurt by your radical changes to the marketplace over the last several months. I hope it was worth it. </end rant>

The people who paid hundreds of dollars to be self hosted?

I don't get it. Those of us who are self hosted are self hosted for a reason. We don't need you to "manage the internals." We want to host in our own, secured environment, that we have 100% total control of. Not create an external point of failure subject to downtime and potential for compromises. Sure, all of the shortcomings of cloud hosting could happen to self hosting, but I'd rather go out in my own terms. 😉 You're advertising to the wrong crowd. If we wanted cloud hosting, we wouldn't have chose IPS.

Clarification: We're going to make self hosting licenses so inconvenient to make cloud hosting more appealing. Scummmmmmmmy.

You mean this? So I have to use the same form guests use to send spam and pre-sale questions to get private support?? The only way I can even see responses from this is by checking the email manually. What kind of BS is this?

@Matt Your current stance on support makes absolutely no sense. Speaking for myself, majority of my inquires are private, and not something I want to post publicly. Why do I have to make a thread that says "make me private" only to wait for it to be so; so I can then state my problem.. Where's the logic in that? No matter how you sugar coat it, you're eliminating basic support. The whole "well, you may get a quicker response if anyone can reply" isn't something people like myself who pay a premium price for premium software wants to hear. With platforms like Discord making forums irrelevant, this seems like a step in the wrong direction. You should be making the software more accessible, rather than limiting your audience to established communities. Big tech companies you seem to cater to aren't using the marketplace, it's the hobby websites and small timers that do, which so happens to be the same group you just cut off at the knees. I feel like you should be focused on the marketplace for residual revenue, instead of squeezing all the expense from your clients. Though, I can't imagine many devs stuck around after the drastic changes made previously. With the recent and questionable changes to the marketplace, exclusive cloud-only features, and now this.. Seems like an intentional move to coax people into switching to cloud hosting. Also, where is Zapier support for self hosted?

I can only imagine these price changes will be reverted soon. Otherwise, whoever is in charge of this should consider retiring soon before it's too late. Went from $80 every 6 months, to $250 every year. $110 increase AND I no longer get basic support? I don't see the logic in that. Seems the very few who will stick around will just not renew that often anymore. So in the end you aren't really gaining anything, just losing the respect of your entire customer base.