Quote & Multi Quote

[Michael_C]

I've never had a problem with it, when you are familiar with IPB they are the the best feature thats ever been added.

[Smoothie]

I've never had a problem with it, when you are familiar with IPB they are the the best feature thats ever been added.

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I'm familiar with IPB and I still click the wrong button.

[Wolfie]

I've never had a problem with it, when you are familiar with IPB they are the the best feature thats ever been added.

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I understand it as well, but not everyone is as bright or as intuitive to figure it out or remember it. Personally, for me, I know how to use it. For my guests, those that either aren't smart enough to figure it out or can't remember, it would make it easier for them. What's the purpose of a feature if it's going to cause a lot of confusion?

I love the multi-quote feature and anyone paying attention to my posts will remember seeing my making use of it (sometimes extensively). It's just one of those things that is kind of hard to nail down for presenting it.

I still think that to have the button with "[ ]" when not chosen and "[X]" or a check mark in it (when chosen) would reduce confusion. That and "Multi-Quote" even though it would make the box/image a little longer.

[bradl]

So far my experiment with removing the Reply button altogether is going well - no complaints and posters are somehow managing to reply. Will be interesting to see what happens with the newest members. So far the only question about quoting I ever got was before I removed the button - and it was the usual 'what does this (quote) button do?'

I also changed the title attribute (as if anyone reads those either) of the multi-quote buttons to say "check box to quote post with ADDREPLY button." I use a version of the button I saw here that has a check box in addition to color change.

[blair]

Can you make a couple, one pink one blue that look like this "Multi

Sure...

p_quote.gif
p_mq_add.gif
p_mq_remove.gif

I agree it's a cleaner look, and also conveys the message (this isn't where you reply!).

[KamWest]

Those buttons are absolutely perfect and it's the easist fix possible.
Just replace the current icons.

Happy Happy Joy Joy

[Michael_C]

http://forums.invisionpower.com/index.php?showtopic=150038

[Wolfie]

Sure...

p_quote.gif

p_mq_add.gif

p_mq_remove.gif

I agree it's a cleaner look, and also conveys the message (this isn't where you reply!).

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Please please please "MULTIQUOTE [ ]" in blue and "MULTIQUOTE [X]" (or checkmarked box instead of an X) in the pink? :D :D :D

That's if you're able to make the button longer so it'll all fit.

[Digital Monkey]

I understand it as well, but not everyone is as bright or as intuitive to figure it out or remember it.

[Wolfie]

It's like buying a microwave. You should be able to open the door, select the time and start it.

But if you can't figure out how to use it because a button is marked clock on the keypad but it's to set the time (and another button is far away from the keypad marked time), then that's going to cause a lot of confusion and not be considered a good product even if it's very effectient and reliable.

People will give up on it because of it being confusing.

The point is that it should be easy to figure out. There are a lot of features that do take time to figure out, but they are somewhat advanced features, such as having forums within forums. Yes, you and I understand them, but someone new might not and it's understandable.

[blair]

Please please please "MULTIQUOTE [ ]" in blue and "MULTIQUOTE [X]"

Sorry, not nearly enough room. I don't know if the button can be made wider. I may try it on a test board later.

[blair]

http://forums.invisionpower.com/index.php?showtopic=150038

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Michael, I already linked to your thread earlier in this topic. While that thread and buttons were related to multiquote confusion, this thread is about quote reply confusion. :P :ph34r:

[KamWest]

Yes the multi quote is clearly understood, it was the "Reply button we had the problem with.

Notice I said had :-) the new "Quote button is great

[K. T. Walrus]

What I did to my board is remove the qpid parameter on the post reply button and make it so that to quote a post, you have to hit the Quote button before hitting the Reply button. You can still multi-quote, but just clicking on the multi-quote button once will only quote the text of that post.

Most posts don't need the quoted text, so I think this works better that way.

[.Kennedy]

It's like I said they ned to add a reply button and have

Reply

Quote

Multi Quote

All you have to do is look at this site to see how many people respond using the "Reply instead of ADDREPLY.

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I only use it too Quote other peoples post. :thumbsup:


If they want just delete the content thats in there.

[Michael_C]

It's like buying a microwave.  You should be able to open the door, select the time and start it.

But if you can't figure out how to use it because a button is marked clock on the keypad but it's to set the time (and another button is far away from the keypad marked time), then that's going to cause a lot of confusion and not be considered a good product even if it's very effectient and reliable.

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IMO, if you buy something new chances are its going to have new features so you should read the manual so you understand it fully and can get the most out of it. :)

[blair]

you should read the manual so you understand it fully and can get the most out of it

You're suggesting that people should have to read the manual to be able to participate in an online discussion? :o

Good Luck with that!

We're getting off-topic here, but to encourage participation, the sign-up and registration process has to be quick and easy, and the interface simple and intuitive.

If anyone needs to RTFM then you better work on improving the interface, or eliminating confusing features. Which is what we're trying to accomplish in this thread.

[Xandur]

I was having the same exact problem. Every time a member wanted to reply, they'd hit the reply (aka quote) button rather than the ADDReply button. I simple removed the multi quote button and changed the reply button to read quote. Problem solved. None of my members have cried about not having the multi qoute anyways, so no big deal.

BUT, if somebody knows how I'd add an actual ADDReply button to each post, I'd love to hear it. :)

[Wolfie]

IMO, if you buy something new chances are its going to have new features so you should read the manual so you understand it fully and can get the most out of it. :)

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Since when is wanting to reply to a post a *NEW* feature?

It's the way the new features have been added that is causing the confusion. Nice feature, I don't think anyone has denied that, just the implementation of it is a problem.

If someone sees a new feature and doesn't know how to use it, then ok, they need to read up on it. But if a new feature looks like an old/common function, then how is the user supposed to know that they don't know how to use it yet?

[KamWest]

What I did to my board is remove the qpid parameter on the post reply button and make it so that to quote a post, you have to hit the Quote button before hitting the Reply button.  You can still multi-quote, but just clicking on the multi-quote button once will only quote the text of that post.

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Can you show us how you did that?

[Wolfie]

You go to the skin manager, Topicview, render row. Then just rearrange. Although I'm sure he can give the exact details.

[Michael_C]

You're suggesting that people should have to read the manual to be able to participate in an online discussion? :o

Good Luck with that!

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To get the most out of features specific to one software, I guess I am although I was speaking in the context of the microwave. :P

Since when is wanting to reply to a post a *NEW* feature?

It's the way the new features have been added that is causing the confusion.  Nice feature, I don't think anyone has denied that, just the implementation of it is a problem.

If someone sees a new feature and doesn't know how to use it, then ok, they need to read up on it.  But if a new feature looks like an old/common function, then how is the user supposed to know that they don't know how to use it yet?

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Multi-quote is new and the reply button has been renamed from quote, I agree that could be quite confusing for some but its not hard to understand after the first time you click it.

[Wolfie]

You are presuming that everyone is as quick to catch on to what changes have been made as well as the exact meaning of the word used for the function. Some people can catch onto posting easily while others catch onto using flight simulators easily. Both computer related, but one may seem like an alien while the other doesn't.

Ease of use is the key. If everyone could be perfect after the first time, then there'd be no such thing as "bloopers" because one time is all it would take and whats the fun in watching 1 mistake?

[blair]

Just an update for anyone interested. I've had zero trouble with people posting a quote reply, when they intend to reply. Switching the buttons seemed to have done the trick. :thumbsup:

[bradl]

Same here. I commented out the Reply=Quote button and no complaints or dud quotes since.