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Gary. Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 They work fine, if you have a scalable system and set it up properly... There are between 10-40 DDOS attacks on our network per day, not one has succeeded in 5 years Good to hear ! I also have the same output, Tons of them daily, Not always DdoS , Just some random kiddy do sysn floods but there all being blocked / filtered without no other user being affected, At a small cost of 49.99 a month !
7SiN Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 They work fine, if you have a scalable system and set it up properly... There are between 10-40 DDOS attacks on our network per day, not one has succeeded in 5 years Even if the port is saturated? And scalable can get quite expensive. This is a very cheap solution compared to all that is out there.
Robulosity2 Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 Even if the port is saturated? And scalable can get quite expensive. This is a very cheap solution compared to all that is out there. If you make your living off of serving data, it's part of the cost you should be prepared to have.. Sure, our network is huge (8 data centers, spanning over 1900 servers) and we have rather hefty capabilities in terms of raw processing power, but there's generally a cost effective scalable option for any size network
Jaggi Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 I've had a fair few issues with DDOS however when it used to happen to me it was a few years ago and there were very few solutions, or affordable solutions aside from adding the IP to a firewall or null routing, to be honest it hasn't changed a lot since then aside from network level solutions available now. We had a guy who decided to DDOS my site off his own site server, wasn't very clever of him so just got the IP and gave it to a linux genius friend of mine who used one of our dedicated servers (we had about 8 at the time) to return the favour. His site was down for 3 days and then his host ditched him. Not condoned as a solution but worked for me :P. If you can track the IP of the person DDOS you then you can contact their host about it and they will shut them down.
7SiN Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 Not condoned as a solution but worked for me :P. If you can track the IP of the person DDOS you then you can contact their host about it and they will shut them down. Not quite. DDoS is not a single person but many bots. DoS is. The people that have DDoS'd my site have MANY many bots (rumors of those hitting my site were in the thousands) and when it all hits your system at once, you can't just block the IP's one by one as it just puts the system down. I don't have any charts yet but in the past I have been told my site was receiving attacks of over 8gbps and around 500,000PPS. Doubt many places can even handle that. A cloud set up as one person suggested definitely could, but with that comes a very hefty price (I've not found a suitable clouding service at an affordable price). Hence the reason I've tried proxy servers, letting them have cloud set ups in front of me and them doing all the work at a very reasonable price.
Jaggi Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 Not quite. DDoS is not a single person but many bots. DoS is. The people that have DDoS'd my site have MANY many bots (rumors of those hitting my site were in the thousands) and when it all hits your system at once, you can't just block the IP's one by one as it just puts the system down. I don't have any charts yet but in the past I have been told my site was receiving attacks of over 8gbps and around 500,000PPS. Doubt many places can even handle that. A cloud set up as one person suggested definitely could, but with that comes a very hefty price (I've not found a suitable clouding service at an affordable price). Hence the reason I've tried proxy servers, letting them have cloud set ups in front of me and them doing all the work at a very reasonable price. Bot nets are quite rare though, if your paypal, amazon, mastercard then maybe but not sure why a person would go through the trouble of getting together a botnet to ddos a site, in my own experience its usually been on a couple of servers. Amazon was the only one that was able to withstand the wikileak attack before, going from their hosting (specialises in cloud solutions) I'm guessing they had a cloud setup and had no problem with it.
7SiN Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 Bot nets are quite rare though, if your paypal, amazon, mastercard then maybe but not sure why a person would go through the trouble of getting together a botnet to ddos a site, in my own experience its usually been on a couple of servers. Amazon was the only one that was able to withstand the wikileak attack before, going from their hosting (specialises in cloud solutions) I'm guessing they had a cloud setup and had no problem with it. Definitely not rare in my niche. I have a modding/glitching gaming site. All these kids are into hacking as well and have built up some nice size botnets. One of them I know owns an army of bots and use to always take me offline because he hated a staff member of mine. Long story short, he and I have talked and he told me that he couldn't take down my new set up but recently stopped because I have outcasted the exstaff that he didn't like. Botnets are more common for certain niches. I can see why most sites won't have to go to the degree I've had, but there have been several people from my site that are apart of hacking sites that (from what I've been told) can produce several gbps attacks on servers if they need to.
Jaggi Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 Definitely not rare in my niche. I have a modding/glitching gaming site. All these kids are into hacking as well and have built up some nice size botnets. One of them I know owns an army of bots and use to always take me offline because he hated a staff member of mine. Long story short, he and I have talked and he told me that he couldn't take down my new set up but recently stopped because I have outcasted the exstaff that he didn't like. Botnets are more common for certain niches. I can see why most sites won't have to go to the degree I've had, but there have been several people from my site that are apart of hacking sites that (from what I've been told) can produce several gbps attacks on servers if they need to. Worse thing is that guy was probably 12 too. Yea heard a lot of gaming sites have issues.
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