Spelling Check for next version?

[Jaggi]

does ie and firefox come with a spell checker now anyways? i think it should be kept as a browser feature rather than bloating the forum with it when its already available in browsers.

[Aniatad]

I'm amused by how some people treat The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) as some sort of an authority.

Being that it's the only authority that is intelligent and isn't based on money, then it is very wise to have it as a web authority.

and No, IE is no where near acceptable as a browser. I consider it the best tool in the world to download other browsers, however.

and I work on computers too, many do, so it's no use saying you do to back up what you say. Developers may usually cator to IE lastly because they -have- to, but they do strongly recommend other browsers. I force my clients to use other browsers because:
1). I know a thing or two about a thing or two, and they know that they damn well better listen to me. They don't know computers so they hire me because I know computers, so I tell them straight up to use what I say to use. (half the time what things they use are spyware)
2). Internet Explorer is horrible, and just because something is used by a majority, does not make it the best. In fact, it just goes to show you how much effort Microsoft puts into controlling it's customers.
No, there is no positives to IE. No, there is no argument worth presenting in IE's favor.
The developers of IE are complete morons. Exactly how hard is it for paid professionals to make a standards compliant browser when the Mozilla group who do it for free are able to do it pretty dang well? You'd think that you would do your job, seeing as your getting paid and all.

[Michael]

OK, I think that's enough IE vs. Firefox nonsense, can we please get back to the actual topic? I swear, why does every topic that talks about browsers have to have fanboys derail it like this?

[bfarber]

Agreed. People can use whatever browser they like.

As for the suggestion

1) Firefox has this built in
2) Opera supports it through an addon: http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/opera/spellcheck/
3) IE supports it through IESpell: http://www.iespell.com/ (Note: when we detect IESpell installed, we show the spellcheck icon right on the RTE too)
4) Safari has this built in (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=111337)

As a result, there's no need for us to add another spellchecker in the mix.

[Luke]

I already have an open mind. And both feet firmly planted in the reality of what drives business and the computer world in general: Money. Not idealism, not what's best, not even what's right. Just money.

Also, you should have read more of this thread before jumping in. Had you done so, you would have realized my post was a somewhat smart-assed reply to another user who's obviously a youthful fanboy for a non-IE browser and/or a Microsoft hater. (And perhaps a pasty-faced gaming geek.) I know perfectly well that computer literacy isn't restricted to 14-year olds. One of the most knowledgeable people I know in the field has 10 years on me, and I'm in my 50's.

...snip...

Fair enough :). I do believe I did misinterpret your meaning, which can happen quite a bit on a forum.

Yes, I do make my sites compatible with IE. But if I developed only for IE and not any other browser, the same thing could happen as far as business goes. These days if it isn't compatible than the top X amount of browsers, you don't sell. And sadly because most plug-it-in users use IE because it came with their computer, it has a larger percentage of use. Even so, even if the usage dropped to 20%, developers would still have to support it.

[Amy T]

We probably won't be adding this, definitely not with the initial release of 3.0. There's quite a few browsers that have built in spell check now, and the other have plugins that add this functionality, so it doesn't seem necessary to me.

Yep I agree I stopped using the mod that used to add a spell check when firefox started building it in.
Gee I think that was over 1 year or 2 ago.

[medic583]

Ohh... it's been awhile... but sure enough... I'm back looking for a mod for this.

Brandon...I have to disagree... respectfully... that a spell checker built into IPB is not needed.

After the last mod I had for this failed to work (I can't remember which version/update of IPB it stopped working in) I've seen a instant decline in spelling on our boards. Yes... some people on the net are computer savy, others... like the majority... just use computer for the basics. They check their e-mail, the browse the web, they play games... and have NO CLUE how to install spell checkers into IE, Opera, etc...

I've included links to the add ins on my board, I've done up tutorials for browsers which I never use (IE... arghh) just for them... and still... I constantly get e-mails and PM's asking where the spell checker is on IPB.

At work (my web board revolves around my profession) we are instituting the use of Panasonic Toughbooks in our rigs within the next month. Over the period of the trial I've shown my coworkers what the tablets can do and briefly how they can use the new databases. Yet... each and every time I show someone the new technology I am reminded that not everyone is comfortable with using them, using technology period. We've been fairly successful with the young folk... the crowd in the 20's... but us older folk in our 30's to 60's who grew up using typewriters in school :) ... each time it takes quite awhile explaining things, showing hands on... one step at a time. Teach for the lowest common demoninator... I have to remember that each and every time.... (yes... that sliding button turns it on .

Yes... I know it's easy for a lot of us to go on the net, find an add-in for a browser and instal it ourselves. Yet... trying to do so for our ALL our board members... the ones whom use the boards each week... trying to help them out with each and every inquiry can end up fairly time consuming for such a simple task. Shouldn't this be geared for the end user, as well as us whom administer the boards?

Yes.. those of us here buy the product... we are the IPB customers... yet so are the end users, the ones whom use the boards, the ones whom post up and keep coming back, the ones whom get used to such a great product as IPB. They eventually learn more and more about what we consider the basics... but... shouldn't it be the easiest and most enjoyable experience for them while visiting our boards?

Just another plea for the end user of IPB... :) Please, please don't forget those whom end up using our boards... and have no clue how to get IESpell installed :)

Agreed. People can use whatever browser they like.

As for the suggestion

1) Firefox has this built in

2) Opera supports it through an addon:

http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/opera/spellcheck/

3) IE supports it through IESpell:

http://www.iespell.com/

(Note: when we detect IESpell installed, we show the spellcheck icon right on the RTE too)

4) Safari has this built in (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=111337)

As a result, there's no need for us to add another spellchecker in the mix.

[bfarber]

In order to use a "built in" spell checker, you'd need to install special software onto your server (such as aspell, for instance), which is beyond the means of most of our users (if you don't have a dedicated server or a VPS, you generally can't install anything). Given this, and the fact that all browsers have spellcheckers built in or available as addons, it simply isn't the best use of our time I'm afraid.

[Ziv Grosu]

Agreed. People can use whatever browser they like.

As for the suggestion

1) Firefox has this built in

2) Opera supports it through an addon:

http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/opera/spellcheck/

3) IE supports it through IESpell:

http://www.iespell.com/

(Note: when we detect IESpell installed, we show the spellcheck icon right on the RTE too)

4) Safari has this built in (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=111337)

As a result, there's no need for us to add another spellchecker in the mix.

I should have agreed. You do not have to develop built-in feature for IPB3.0.0 , last year I have installed the "ieSpell Check" and it didn't work because of the non-english-language of my own community, and that's all on a major scale the browsers-already do it.