jpg Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 I have the following scenario: Hosting two v4.1.19.4 boards on the same VM (I additionally control the host): Board 1: 2,119,338 posts, 22,029 members, but average online members would only be 50-100. Converted from vBulletin ~2 years ago. Running Nexus/Commerce. Board 2: 186,565 posts, 254 members, average online members 10. Converted from phpBB2 ~3-4 years ago. Not running Nexus/Commerce. On Board 1, post replies to threads are slow. Can take several seconds to "submit" - eg: Everything else is instant, or close enough too it. Creating a new topic: Replying to that topic (causing a merge): On Board 2, everything is instant including replies. I realise Board 2 has a lot less content, but my Board 1 has a lot less content than other boards out there (including this one) which have better reply performance. Does anyone have any ideas on what I could check? Dedicated VM. 16gb memory, SSD storage, 6 core Xeon. Ubuntu 17/nginx 1.10/php7.0-fpm/MariaDB 10.1. Database tables are a mix of Aria/InnoDB, but are the same across each board. Board 1 was all InnoDB (except where Fulltext was needed) until recently, I converted most of them them to see if it would improve this problem but it made no difference to any speed that I can humanly tell. VM is never under any serious load, and there's never any storage latency. This issue has really persisted over multiple hosts/OS builds, so I'm relatively confident it's not an environmental issue. @jair101 mentioned thread subscriptions and email load could be an issue. I'm using Mailgun via SMTP for both boards, but obviously Board 1 by it's nature has a lot more people subscribed to threads. Is there a way to offload email sending to a job that's run via cron?
jair101 Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 To properly confirm that mails could be the issue, is everything OK when you reply to small topics with no subscribers? And I am not talking about the merging of consecutive posts, but posting after another user in a small topic. Do you have also issues with liking a post or just with replying? Check out my topic, describing almost the same behaviour: Maybe you should switch from mailgun to another provider, just for test? I didn't had problems with sendgrid.
jpg Posted May 17, 2017 Author Posted May 17, 2017 Thanks @jair101, I did some extensive testing and I think you're correct. If I only reply to threads with a small amount of followers the reply is nearly instant. Unfortunate, I don't really want to change email providers. A feature request for future versions to offload the sending of emails to a queue is the way it should be done.
jpg Posted May 17, 2017 Author Posted May 17, 2017 Have just tried using the SendGrid API, no major difference. I have some geographical challenges in that my forum is hosted in New Zealand, so all of these major email providers are relatively high latency away (100ms+).
jair101 Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 Another option I guess is if you can setup your own mail server and send directly from it, but this can be tricky. Yeah, I do agree that emails should be queued and not send immediately.
jpg Posted May 17, 2017 Author Posted May 17, 2017 Thanks for your input. I'll take a look and see if I can use sendmail locally, and have that queue and forward to Mailgun via SMTP. Will be a relatively complicated solution to meet best practice email sending, but I might be able to get it to work. I've additionally posted in the Feedback & Ideas section:
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