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DA-WOODY.COM Posted December 21, 2010 Posted December 21, 2010 OK so a poser on a forum I'm a member of has made a life of obnoxious posts No Forget about the Mod's stepping in anyway after this person crapped on many posts I have made (none related to whoever he/she might be) I called them out on just being full of BS and stuffing threads for no reason I received this PM [*edited I Guess]you talk a lot of *faeces for an old guy whos ass i could easily kick the next time im in SD for work or sailing. watch yourself, *Barneys-Girlfriend [/*edited I Guess] admittedly it's kinda week but none the less in violation of rules that should be in-place I feel that the : "Invision Power Board" product should have a feature allowing the person being violated as I was to be given the last 100 or more IP addresses used by the violator it should be spelled out in the Rules that this would happen if it keeps some people from becoming this troll it's worth it Out of frustration I'm posting this here What do think about that ???
Mat Barrie Posted December 21, 2010 Posted December 21, 2010 That's a giant privacy violation, in some places flat out illegal. I personally believe there is no chance of this happening.
DA-WOODY.COM Posted December 21, 2010 Author Posted December 21, 2010 That's a giant privacy violation, in some places flat out illegal. I personally believe there is no chance of this happening. Not if you agree to it as a condition to join/post a forum it's only for situations where someone threatens another member etc. = VIOLATION of USE !! what is the problem ??? would people still do stupid things knowing it will uncover their last 100 IP addresses (just so all extra stupid actions arn't just done at a location of opportunity -0 like on vacation)
Fishfish0001 Posted December 21, 2010 Posted December 21, 2010 No its illegal. Its basically selling your personal details, which I assure most every reputable site out there will NOT ever do. If someone is being such a problem then you need to be the one taking the high road and either reporting the user, or ignoring them all together. Replying to them and calling them out just encourages them. Giving out their IP address is just not mature, nor legal in most places. Just let the site owner take care of it, or if you are the site owner then ban them, and stop causing a scene. My $0.02
DA-WOODY.COM Posted December 21, 2010 Author Posted December 21, 2010 No its illegal. Its basically selling your personal details, which I assure most every reputable site out there will NOT ever do. If someone is being such a problem then you need to be the one taking the high road and either reporting the user, or ignoring them all together. Replying to them and calling them out just encourages them. Giving out their IP address is just not mature, nor legal in most places. Just let the site owner take care of it, or if you are the site owner then ban them, and stop causing a scene. My $0.02 as a EULA, OK in this case a *FULA what is the problem ?? *Forum User Licence Agreement I realize without the wording in advance = Problems However with the wording in-place for registration &/or a required renewal should be fine!
Fishfish0001 Posted December 21, 2010 Posted December 21, 2010 Your not even a forum admin from what IO can see, why don't you just report the user and let the website deal with it, rather then trying to get his IP address. I see no reason why you would even want that, and frankly if a site did that, im sure most people would leave and not go back. I'd like to see forum software that does this, and a site that does this that has people on it. There aren't any.
DA-WOODY.COM Posted December 21, 2010 Author Posted December 21, 2010 Your not even a forum admin from what IO can see, why don't you just report the user and let the website deal with it, rather then trying to get his IP address. I see no reason why you would even want that, and frankly if a site did that, im sure most people would leave and not go back. I'd like to see forum software that does this, and a site that does this that has people on it. There aren't any. I read my post twice and couldn't find the part where I said I was a forum admin, I'll read it one more time I did however find that I did say: OK so a poser on a forum I'm a member of has made a life of obnoxious posts No Forget about the Mod's stepping in I don't see what the problem is with turning over the IP address of those who blatantly violate terms agreed to as a condition of use of the forum from this post alone you can tell who I really am - is that Scary? as you know who I am I will NOT threaten you I decided long ago that I wouldn't threaten anyone and as such I could see no reason to not allow people to know who I am simple ...eh I'm thinking allowing people to make up a name and post anonymously is OK if they must but I think people would behave differently (read more responsibly) If they knew that they would be exposed after violating forum regulations "They" have the choice when deciding their actions in advance do you want to cater to people who will only go to a forum where they can violate the regulations do you enjoy intervention? I may be an admin of a forum (or not) it really doesn't matter my suggestion is to make the forum experience better for "Everyone" admin or user alike I don't wonder if you are an admin, as that does not matter either :-)
Fishfish0001 Posted December 21, 2010 Posted December 21, 2010 Honestly that last post was one of the most confusing things I have read in awhile. I honestly dont think IPS will EVER add something like this. Its up tot he forum admin, and if you are refusing to even report the user to the site owner then you should reconsider even suggesting this. This stuff doesn't stop people, it just gets rid of everyone else. Just report them and leave it. Your just making the problem worse by responding as you did to him, and encouraging him. Theres nothing that can be done unless you just report him and let the owners deal with it. You have 0 authority on that site as far as I ca see, which means you can't do anything. Edit: I knew you wern't an admin, which is why I pointed that out earlier.
DA-WOODY.COM Posted December 21, 2010 Author Posted December 21, 2010 Honestly that last post was one of the most confusing things I have read in awhile. I honestly dont think IPS will EVER add something like this. Its up tot he forum admin, and if you are refusing to even report the user to the site owner then you should reconsider even suggesting this. This stuff doesn't stop people, it just gets rid of everyone else. Just report them and leave it. Your just making the problem worse by responding as you did to him, and encouraging him. Theres nothing that can be done unless you just report him and let the owners deal with it. You have 0 authority on that site as far as I ca see, which means you can't do anything. Edit: I knew you wern't an admin, which is why I pointed that out earlier. as I mentioned in the 1st post it was a PM I didn't mention that I did not respond back and that I did report/FWD to admin I just think people should have a little skin in the game when they violate regulations the other person does not use a real name and no sense getting in a pissing contest with someone you don't know I should Not have ever responded to any of his/her posts but it is irritating to have someone craping on your posts all the time Not All admins are given the chance to police a forum as they may like the admin should have more leverage in maintaining the playground that is a forum
Amy T Posted December 21, 2010 Posted December 21, 2010 [color="#1C2837"][size="2"]That's a giant privacy violation, in some places flat out illegal. I personally believe there is no chance of this happening. [/size][/color] I agree with you. For starers I know for a fact people can hide their Ip or even spoof their Ip and make it look like it is coming from an honest member, seen that happen on my own site.
Fishfish0001 Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 Can we not hit enter every 10 words please, its really hard to read everything. ;) Its pointless is my final opinion.
3DKiwi Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 The feature request you ask for will never happen. If you have a problem with another member at a forum your first action should be to report the member to the forum admins / moderators. After reading your rambling posts here could I politely suggest that you have a look at how you are writing your posts. Assuming you write like this everywhere else, then you're inviting someone with low tolerance levels to have a go at you. 3DKiwi
Robulosity2 Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 Not if you agree to it as a condition to join/post a forum it's only for situations where someone threatens another member etc. = VIOLATION of USE !! what is the problem ??? would people still do stupid things knowing it will uncover their last 100 IP addresses (just so all extra stupid actions arn't just done at a location of opportunity -0 like on vacation) Your terms/conditions are not higher up than regional privacy laws & policies.. Ever
rastaX Posted December 22, 2010 Posted December 22, 2010 This has got to be the wildest suggestion I can remember in a long time................ :lol:
Mat B Posted December 23, 2010 Posted December 23, 2010 as I mentioned in the 1st post it was a PM I didn't mention that I did not respond back and that I did report/FWD to admin I just think people should have a little skin in the game when they violate regulations ... Not All admins are given the chance to police a forum as they may like the admin should have more leverage in maintaining the playground that is a forum I will say that we feel that IPB takes a leading approach to allowing administrators to keep order in their forums. The report centre and centralised reporting means that when you report something, the administrator has easy access to the reported content both at present and at the time of the report, and all information (including IP addresses) of the member responsible. IPB will also track all IP locations ever used by a member, to aid in tracking down both the member personally, and other accounts associated with that member. We have the spam service to allow the collective experience of the IPB user base to identify and block spammers and troublemakers. And to add to that we have tons of features to allow an admin to control exactly who can register on their communities - and our mod community takes it several steps further. I assure you, admins have plenty of leverage in maintaining their communities, and our software makes sure that there is an element of risk to causing trouble. And that functionality is constantly being evolved. That said, I strongly doubt we'll ever be exposing members private information to other members as part of that functionality. It would be illegal for many of our customers, and would simply invite new forms of troublemaking. To be honest, I don't see this thread going anywhere good. There are several opinions from either side, and some of them look like they may be about to get heated, so I'm going to nip it in the bud before it starts.
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