7 hours ago, Charles said:

Quests is available on the Team package and up.

Sadly this not for me, Self Hosted going to die.

Hi @Paras,

I'm going to quote Matt's post from another topic.

On 7/22/2025 at 6:00 PM, Matt said:

I don't want to endlessly talk about this. It's been covered so many times, so I'll do a quick recap:

1) No, self-hosted is not being removed and no, we're not "crippling" it even though it only accounts for 12% of sales now.

2) Yes, there are product tiers and features that are only available to some tiers. This is how all businesses operate.

We really have to move on from how forums used to operate a decade ago as that model is long dead. We can't keep having the same conversation each time we create something that isn't available on all plans. 😀

Hope this relieve any concerns you have about being self-hosted.

9 hours ago, Paras said:

Sadly this not for me, Self Hosted going to die.

You're not mistaken—at some point, self-hosting may fade out. It's been a declining trend for many years. So yes, it makes sense that Invision is focusing more on the Cloud—it’s a more sustainable path forward. And let’s be honest, none of us want to see Invision go bankrupt or shut down anytime soon, do we?

That said, there’s no need to worry—self-hosted communities aren't being dropped. Invision still sells and supports self-hosted licenses, and it’s not going away overnight. If you prefer self-hosting, that’s completely valid and still a viable option for years to come.

But if you’re even slightly considering moving to the Cloud, I encourage you to try it. Chances are, you’ll realize it was the best move you could have made.

Once again, we're requesting that the Cyrillic language issue be fixed in the tag field. Currently, tags typed in Cyrillic do not appear in the dropdown, and we have to scroll to find them manually.

17 hours ago, LemonGrenade said:

Great work improving the ad setup (if indeed we have that on self-hosted). The cherry on top would be the ability to place ads (perhaps as widgets) between forum categories on the home page.

17 hours ago, Marc said:

Yes, this is available to all packages

I assume @Marc was replying to the first part of this post, as I can't see an option for the second part.

I would second the ability to place ads between forum category rows on the forum home page (similar to the existing options of placing between topic rows or post rows).

4 minutes ago, James Hargreaves said:

I assume @Marc was replying to the first part of this post

I was replying to it being available to self hosted, yes.

48 minutes ago, Владислав Цветков said:

Once again, we're requesting that the Cyrillic language issue be fixed in the tag field. Currently, tags typed in Cyrillic do not appear in the dropdown, and we have to scroll to find them manually.

Is this something you have reported elsewhere that isnt resolved? If so, please let me know where this was reported and I can chase that up for you :)

3 hours ago, Cedric V said:

You're not mistaken—at some point, self-hosting may fade out. It's been a declining trend for many years. So yes, it makes sense that Invision is focusing more on the Cloud—it’s a more sustainable path forward. And let’s be honest, none of us want to see Invision go bankrupt or shut down anytime soon, do we?

That said, there’s no need to worry—self-hosted communities aren't being dropped. Invision still sells and supports self-hosted licenses, and it’s not going away overnight. If you prefer self-hosting, that’s completely valid and still a viable option for years to come.

But if you’re even slightly considering moving to the Cloud, I encourage you to try it. Chances are, you’ll realize it was the best move you could have made.

Who doesn't want to move to the Cloud? Everyone does. The issue isn't whether they want to or not, but whether they can or can't.

@Marc

Here is the thread - https://invisioncommunity.com/forums/topic/483063-tags-cannot-be-searched/#comment-2999465

Still waiting for the fix.

1 hour ago, Paras said:

Who doesn't want to move to the Cloud? Everyone does. The issue isn't whether they want to or not, but whether they can or can't.

That's a stilly statement, absolute rubbish to make that claim. Personally I have zero plans to move to Cloud and will resist it for as long as I can. It's often slow, unreliable and is overpriced.

Still I can see both sides, for and against. It's good there are various tiers available for Cloud customers, that makes a lot of sense for all concerned, but it can also be argued that a lot of these features are basically bloatware if you don't need, want or often use them, so the tiers provide more choice. Clients paying a higher price for Cloud should benefit from new features.

Sometimes it can seem that new Cloud-only features are taking precendent, especially when you see a big announcement, get excited, then reach the small print to find out its Cloud only. The seceret is to scroll down to the small print first to avoid dissapointment! Self-hosted have still received some new features though.

IPS spends much time developing new things when the basics of IC5 are still not working though (after coming up to 10 full stable releases). The IC5 documentation is lacking and disorganised; I think there should have been some team tasking to make sure it is brought up to date by now, and we're still waiting on the announcements of Commerce's new features, after it was stripped out for IC5?

17 minutes ago, Владислав Цветков said:

@Marc

Here is the thread - https://invisioncommunity.com/forums/topic/483063-tags-cannot-be-searched/#comment-2999465

Still waiting for the fix.

Ive taken a look, and it is indeed still an open bug at present.

17 minutes ago, The Old Man said:

That's a stilly statement, absolute rubbish to make that claim. Personally I have zero plans to move to Cloud and will resist it for as long as I can. It's often slow, unreliable and is overpriced.

Still I can see both sides, for and against. It's good there are various tiers available for Cloud customers, that makes a lot of sense for all concerned, but it can also be argued that a lot of these features are basically bloatware if you don't need, want or often use them, so the tiers provide more choice. Clients paying a higher price for Cloud should benefit from new features.

Sometimes it can seem that new Cloud-only features are taking precendent, especially when you see a big announcement, get excited, then reach the small print to find out its Cloud only. The seceret is to scroll down to the small print first to avoid dissapointment! Self-hosted have still received some new features though.

IPS spends much time developing new things when the basics of IC5 are still not working though (after coming up to 10 full stable releases). The IC5 documentation is lacking and disorganised; I think there should have been some team tasking to make sure it is brought up to date by now, and we're still waiting on the announcements of Commerce's new features, after it was stripped out for IC5?

Thank you for your feedback. Of course, we have many customers with almost polar opposite feedback on cloud to yourself. As much as we would love to be able to please everyone, unfortunately thats not always going to be the case.

@Marc

Yea, it takes lot of time when u have lot of tags and you need to search them by scrolling. That's why i wonder when it will be fixed. :)

15 minutes ago, Marc said:

Thank you for your feedback. Of course, we have many customers with almost polar opposite feedback on cloud to yourself. As much as we would love to be able to please everyone, unfortunately thats not always going to be the case.

Absolutely 🙂

51 minutes ago, The Old Man said:

It's often slow, unreliable

Couldn’t disagree more.

Having been on the Cloud now for 2/3 years, I’ve not had one complaint with regards to speed and reliability on the EU servers has been insanely good.

I think I’ve seen 2 very brief outages aside from planned maintenance, brief enough to make a cuppa and it’s fixed.

Have no experiance with the cloud servers, however if i go with this site, and the amount of error 500 i have seen in the last couple of months (more then 10times, sometimes over 30min to a hour). And for example today, when site was spinning for over 5min before loading the page, seem to be have fixed after 15min. That would give me a bit of pain in the stomach if that would happen on our sites. But perhaps more people are used to that happening. However pricing with the basic cloud vs classic + hosting is around the same price for use. But we like to keep things in our control. Like delaying an update, until others have tested it and only rolling it out a bit later. In times we specify when almost no users are online. Otherwise updates and such will be preformed during peak hours. Don't know ofcouse if your a cloud user if you could control that, and delay an update and such, or give it time window to allow that rollout to take place.

1 minute ago, Moestuin said:

Like delaying an update, until others have tested it and only rolling it out a bit later. In times we specify when almost no users are online. Otherwise updates and such will be preformed during peak hours. Don't know ofcouse if your a cloud user if you could control that, and delay an update and such, or give it time window to allow that rollout to take place.

You have full control, run the update as and when you please from the admin panel as you would self hosted.

As a UK user it works well as I do what you say, run mine around 11pm and the US support are on to help if needed.

(Touch wood) not had one update fail and require the boffins to rescue.

5 minutes ago, Moestuin said:

and the amount of error 500 i have seen in the last couple of months (more then 10times, sometimes over 30min to a hour). And for example today, when site was spinning for over 5min before loading the page, seem to be have fixed after 15min.

I blame @Matt for breaking stuff.

@Day. Then we might reconsider going to the cloud, when we run out of diskspace because or database is really getting to big and hosting is really getting to expesive to run it on our own VPS. For now still ok.

@Matt I should be on commission here you know 😂

2 minutes ago, Day. said:

@Matt I should be on commission here you know 😂

We should really set up a proper referral program.

13 minutes ago, Moestuin said:

however if i go with this site, and the amount of error 500 i have seen in the last couple of months (more then 10times, sometimes over 30min to a hour)

We tend to upgrade and test betas on this site to find any issues before we release it. A few days ago things went a bit wrong and took a while to resolve. It's not a cloud issue, it's a me issue. 😇

Dissapointed to find the AdminCP side CSS and JS Theme related bug bugs are still not fixed in 5.0.10 but keeping fingers crossed for future betas.

1 hour ago, The Old Man said:

IPS spends much time developing new things when the basics of IC5 are still not working though (after coming up to 10 full stable releases). The IC5 documentation is lacking and disorganised; I think there should have been some team tasking to make sure it is brought up to date by now, and we're still waiting on the announcements of Commerce's new features, after it was stripped out for IC5?

We have a lot going on, including a website refresh and documentation which is all in progress.

Just now, The Old Man said:

Dissapointed to find the AdminCP side CSS and JS Theme related bug bugs are still not fixed in 5.0.10 but keeping fingers crossed for future betas.

Which issues are they?

7 minutes ago, Matt said:

We have a lot going on, including a website refresh and documentation which is all in progress.

The website is great though! Good news on the documentation, thank you!

7 minutes ago, Matt said:

Which issues are they?

https://invisioncommunity.com/invision-community-5-bug-tracker/v509-theme-resource-tags-not-working-in-admincp-theme-css-template-r1162/

https://invisioncommunity.com/invision-community-5-bug-tracker/5010-beta-1-template-logic-within-the-js-template-still-isnt-parsed-r1204/

The CSS issue is still open, the JS template issue should solved now in 5.0.10 Beta 1.

8 hours ago, The Old Man said:

That's a stilly statement, absolute rubbish to make that claim. Personally I have zero plans to move to Cloud and will resist it for as long as I can. It's often slow, unreliable and is overpriced.

Still I can see both sides, for and against. It's good there are various tiers available for Cloud customers, that makes a lot of sense for all concerned, but it can also be argued that a lot of these features are basically bloatware if you don't need, want or often use them, so the tiers provide more choice. Clients paying a higher price for Cloud should benefit from new features.

Sometimes it can seem that new Cloud-only features are taking precendent, especially when you see a big announcement, get excited, then reach the small print to find out its Cloud only. The seceret is to scroll down to the small print first to avoid dissapointment! Self-hosted have still received some new features though.

IPS spends much time developing new things when the basics of IC5 are still not working though (after coming up to 10 full stable releases). The IC5 documentation is lacking and disorganised; I think there should have been some team tasking to make sure it is brought up to date by now, and we're still waiting on the announcements of Commerce's new features, after it was stripped out for IC5?

Your comment isn't nonsense.

As for my statement, "who wouldn't want to move to the Cloud," it was an exaggeration or perhaps a rhetorical question. I'm not sure what the exact term for it is in English. I agree 101% with your statement.

I'm not sure if I'm out of line or completely accurate in saying this, but for any true status updates and information regarding the Cloud environment with Invision Community, I wouldn't base it off this specific site, but rather the Invision Community status page.

Invision Community | Uptime.com

As Matt mentioned, the Invision Community team (or just Matt 😆) use this site to test betas, updates and other functionality improvements before they are introduced to customers. It allows them to perform tests on a production environment to iron out bugs and work out fixes as there is only so much that can be done on an internal environment. A lot of people use Invision Community for many different things, using the software in different ways to cater to their own audiences. What better way to find issues than using their own community, and indirectly we're all helping by finding and reporting them? It's not uncommon practice in this industry and I think works very well, regardless of the small periods of downtime.

I'm obviously not pointing fingers at any one in particular and I don't mean to be harsh or nasty, but sometimes exercising a little more patience despite the frustration instead of jumping the gun and freaking out with a "this doesn't work" or "IC is down, again" doesn't really help anyone or anything. If you encounter downtime or an issue, you can either wait for an explanation from the team or be concise when writing a topic ensuring to provide as much relevant detail as possible (and obviously seeing if the problem has been reported before, where you could simply post your own experience in the same topic).

On that note, remember not everything is an easy fix. What seems simple to you and me may be a completely different story for a developer. At the end of the day, we are using premium forum software with premium features and an all star team. We are very lucky Invision Community is where it is today, and that's all to do with the team and every single one of us using this software.