Pages in Clubs, observations so far

[opentype]

1. Member posting is now working with the latest patch 👍

2. Database records made in clubs do not appear in feeds, not the club feed or the Activity feed. I have seen reactions to records though. 

3. Pages Feed Blocks don’t honor club-level access permissions. On the club level, I turned off access for “Members not in this club” and the records can’t be accessed by non-club-members. But Pages Feed blocks for the database contain these records, despite “honor permission” being activated. The goal here would be to create a “latest news (or whatever the content is) from the clubs I am a member of” block. 

4. Adding a category in a club is missing the Description field

5. Not making a Pages category in a club public leads to a confusing, generic error message, which doesn’t tell the user to join the club to access the content. I think the error should be clearer, or the Pages category tab should be hidden from the club, as it is done with Forums in clubs. Right now, it’s inconsistent. Forum tabs disappear, Pages tabs lead to an error. 

Edited March 15 by opentype

[Jim M]

Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention! I can confirm this should be further reviewed and I have logged an internal bug report for our development team to investigate and address as necessary, in a future maintenance release.

 

[opentype]

Was any of this identified as bug to be fixed in maintenance releases?

My biggest issue is still this, which has stopped me from rolling out Pages databases in clubs altogether:

On 3/14/2024 at 4:58 PM, opentype said:

2. Database records made in clubs do not appear in feeds, not the club feed or the Activity feed. I have seen reactions to records though. 

Is this intentional? Do I miss certain settings? I just tested again with the latest release and still see the same. 

Without new database records appearing in feeds it would be kind of pointless. The way to discover new records is just too long, when you manually have to go to Clubs → Specific Club → Database Category instead of just seeing a new record on the Activity page. 

[Sonya*]

On 3/14/2024 at 4:58 PM, opentype said:

2. Database records made in clubs do not appear in feeds, not the club feed or the Activity feed. I have seen reactions to records though. 

I have not updated to 4.7.17 yet. But I can see the database records on the club feeds. (If you mean the feed shown in the club itself mydomain.com/clubs/489-club-name/  )

On 3/14/2024 at 4:58 PM, opentype said:

5. Not making a Pages category in a club public leads to a confusing, generic error message, which doesn’t tell the user to join the club to access the content. I think the error should be clearer, or the Pages category tab should be hidden from the club, as it is done with Forums in clubs. Right now, it’s inconsistent. Forum tabs disappear, Pages tabs lead to an error. 

There are two permissions issues that have been resolved:

• Fixed an issue where club category menu entries would be shown even if the visitor has no permissions to view the page.
• Fixed an issue where guests couldn't open the club categories page.

 

[opentype]

34 minutes ago, Sonya* said:

I have not updated to 4.7.17 yet. But I can see the database records on the club feeds. (If you mean the feed shown in the club itself mydomain.com/clubs/489-club-name/  )

Thanks. What kind of club is it? I am using closed clubs and the clubs feature is only visible to members.  

Edited May 30 by opentype

[Sonya*]

Just now, opentype said:

Thanks. What kind of club is it? I am used closed clubs and the clubs feature is only visible to members.  

Open club. But the database page for the club feature has no view permission for guests.

[Marc]

2 hours ago, opentype said:

Was any of this identified as bug to be fixed in maintenance releases?

Im not sure I understand your question there, given Jim mentioned he has created a bug report 🙂 

[opentype]

I just found it after testing every setting possible. 

It’s the “Allow Searching” setting in the database settings. When that is turned on, new club Pages records appear in feeds. If it turned off, they all disappear.