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Support for PHP 5.4 ending soon

For our self-hosted customers, we wanted to give you advanced notice that support for PHP 5.4 in the IPS Community Suite will be ending soon. IPS Community Suite 4.1.11 will be the last release to support this version of PHP.

PHP 5.4 was released in 2012 and reached 'end of life' in September 2015, and so we will be requiring at least PHP 5.5 from IPS Community Suite 4.1.12 onwards. We do recommend PHP 5.6 or greater as 5.5 is approaching end of life as well.

If you currently use PHP 5.4, please contact your host and ask them to upgrade to a supported version as soon as possible.

If you would rather not have to worry about server-level issues like this, consider switching to one of our Community in the Cloud plans. They include all of our suite apps and we take care of all of the server management for you, leaving you to focus on running your community. If you are currently self-hosting, we can transfer your community to a cloud plan for free, in most cases. Contact our sales team for more information.

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4 hours ago, Mark Round said:

So what you are saying is that people have potentially purchased a product that they can no longer use

Actually we are saying you may be on a web host you should not use if they are still using PHP 5.4. But you can choose either way of looking at it ^_^ 

15 hours ago, Jimmy Gavekort said:

Hope to see full support for PHP7 soon! ^_^ 

So do we! Actually it seems to work fine on PHP7 we just cannot officially say so yet without some third-party plugins getting updates.

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1 hour ago, Charles said:

Actually we are saying you may be on a web host you should not use if they are still using PHP 5.4. But you can choose either way of looking at it ^_^ 

 

I'm talking about people who have already purchased the product and a set up to support it and now you are saying we need to pay again .ive already wasted 2 years worth of hosting money upgrading to 4.0because the host didn't support it and now you are saying I have to do it again! a lot of shared hosts will not upgrade to that level php so it becomes extremely expensive. Purchasing a new plan etc.i understand that older versions of software eventually become obsolete but I don't understand why the system can't run on all versions.Please don't mention your community in the cloud either as that would make my purchase of a license a complete waste of money.

 

 

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45 minutes ago, Mark Round said:

I'm talking about people who have already purchased the product and a set up to support it and now you are saying we need to pay again .ive already wasted 2 years worth of hosting money upgrading to 4.0because the host didn't support it and now you are saying I have to do it again! a lot of shared hosts will not upgrade to that level php so it becomes extremely expensive. Purchasing a new plan etc.i understand that older versions of software eventually become obsolete but I don't understand why the system can't run on all versions.Please don't mention your community in the cloud either as that would make my purchase of a license a complete waste of money.

 

 

Look at it this way - IPB supported PHP 5.4 almost a year after it was deemed End of Life by the creators - you can't expect IPB to maintain backwards compatibility AND take advantage of the latest technologies.

You can always choose not to upgrade your IPB install until your host decides to upgrade PHP - and as @Charles suggested in his comment, if your host is unwilling to upgrade (which is unsafe for a variety of reasons), then perhaps you should look at alternative hosting once your contract with them expires.

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I know I said that in my last post pretty much but I just don't like having to keep forking money over needlessly . It's annoying for me because my site is literally a demo site that probably a handful of people will only ever see. It's purely my personal project so why on earth would I spend an absolute fortune in a dedicated server? This is what I'm getting at here .

A lot of hobbyists and smaller sites will be priced out by this , thus cutting off the customer base and forcing them to find another solution . (Community in the cloud doesn't offer the freedom I require unfortunately) 

i have spent a lot of money the last two years on hosting and been let down too many times, hence my frustrations here.

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6 minutes ago, Mark Round said:

I know I said that in my last post pretty much but I just don't like having to keep forking money over needlessly . It's annoying for me because my site is literally a demo site that probably a handful of people will only ever see. It's purely my personal project so why on earth would I spend an absolute fortune in a dedicated server? This is what I'm getting at here .

A lot of hobbyists and smaller sites will be priced out by this , thus cutting off the customer base and forcing them to find another solution . (Community in the cloud doesn't offer the freedom I require unfortunately) 

i have spent a lot of money the last two years on hosting and been let down too many times, hence my frustrations here.

You don't need a dedicated server to use a newer version of PHP, just a reputable host that doesn't use software that has been unsupported for nearly a year ^_^ 

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21 minutes ago, Mark Round said:

A lot of hobbyists and smaller sites will be priced out by this …

Having a host with recent PHP versions doesn’t mean that you have to pay more. 

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I upgraded mine in my host control panel myself from PHP 5.4 to PHP 5.6 and it was easy to do. I never was charged more money to upgrade. Now, if you have your host upgrade the PHP for you, you might get charged a one time upgrade fee. 

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49 minutes ago, CP said:

I upgraded mine in my host control panel myself from PHP 5.4 to PHP 5.6 and it was easy to do. I never was charged more money to upgrade. Now, if you have your host upgrade the PHP for you, you might get charged a one time upgrade fee. 

Unfortunately it's only available on Linux or dedicated servers with my host ( who I won't name) they are a well known reputable host as well.stupidly I paid for a 3 year block and yes it's upgradable through plesk which I don't have I only have cpanel but that is neither here or there tbh.

The price difference is quite ridiculous, one thing I have noticed is that not many hosts seem to specify php versions in their ads it's a bit of a minefield. Anyway I've already said enough on this I think.

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On 4/14/2016 at 2:40 PM, Charles said:

Actually we are saying you may be on a web host you should not use if they are still using PHP 5.4. But you can choose either way of looking at it ^_^ 

So do we! Actually it seems to work fine on PHP7 we just cannot officially say so yet without some third-party plugins getting updates.

Are there any way that I could check the functionality of those plugins, i mean like find functions that isn't upgraded? 

I can't imagine seeing it ever fully supported if it's up to the plugin devs.

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There's more than enough time for everyone to upgrade or figure out what to do... this is internet technologies, stuff changes, fast... keep up with it or give up, I don't know...

I'm paying almost nothing for an OVH server... they give you the option to install CentOS 7 in it (among many other options), then you install Plesk... and you are set up, always up to date, they added php7 long ago.

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On 4/15/2016 at 10:11 AM, Charles said:

PHP stops support for 5.5 on 10 July 2016 so I would guess we will later this year/early next year.

@Charles  The issue I have is that my host (your competitor) on a shared host account, are only offering 5.5 at this time.

When contacted their CS states that  5.6 and 7 are not stable, that's there stance, and want be adding until the version are deemed stable. But they would be happy to provide a VPS or dedicated. I don't think they will worry if my site needs 5.6 or above, they are not changing until a majority need the version, not a minority.

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2 hours ago, Terry - AKA Dumbledore said:

@Charles  The issue I have is that my host (your competitor) on a shared host account, are only offering 5.5 at this time.

When contacted their CS states that  5.6 and 7 are not stable, that's there stance, and want be adding until the version are deemed stable. But they would be happy to provide a VPS or dedicated. I don't think they will worry if my site needs 5.6 or above, they are not changing until a majority need the version, not a minority.

I am afraid that is incredibly irresponsible of your host and really they are being a bit dishonest to you. Huge companies use PHP 5.6 every day to run their sites without issue.

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17 hours ago, Charles said:

I am afraid that is incredibly irresponsible of your host and really they are being a bit dishonest to you. Huge companies use PHP 5.6 every day to run their sites without issue.

I think its more the corporate cost that is the bottom line. At this time and until it becomes critical, I won't be afraid to go directly to

the CEO and challenge him. I've done it in the past with other companies.

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