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  1. Again it's about the approach. Yahoo Groups was horrible. As was Google Plus. Never heard of MyPlace (unless you meant Myspace) or Google Wave or Buzz. A lot of it is interest. Many forum owners feel the weight of seemingly having to supply most of the content. Many members want that content but don't want to supply much of any themselves. And many don't want to pay to support it either. At some point people start asking if the time and effort is worth the lack of support and discussion. So while life sometimes gets in the way, the reality is forums for many aren't as appealing as they once were. I blame part of that on the forum community generally going with the, "If it ain't broke don't fix it." mentality. But it is broke, and it does need fixing. Poor business decisions have crippled VBulletin and its popularity. It flat out sucks now on almost every level and is not what it used to be. Xenforo admitted not long ago they aren't as far along on their software or the next version as they would like either. IPB is one of the only fairly consistent ones. But even they have their limitations, though 4.5 looks much better. You simply can't rely on forum creators to be around forever either. Or to be able to keep up with changing times or to know how to change to what could work. Forums serve a purpose but it seems what that purpose is even seems a bit lost amongst the forum community trying to adapt to the rise and popularity of social media. @EmpireKicking At least it's something. lol. @Davyc You are correct. To an extent. But I think it's more than that. People that usually do that stuff usually do so on the go. "I just finished brushing my teeth. Now it's off to the job interview!" "I'm going to bed. Hope I don't have anymore nightmares." They may be trivial comments or statuses, but they also generate interest for others on the go or that simply don't have time to leave paragraphs worth of response. Some simply don't have the time to have deep conversations. Others hate having them. "What job are you interviewing at? Good luck!" "I had nightmares for years then started taking chloroform. It works wonders!" Or they post an image of something they find of interest then watch others make quick comments about it. Sometimes those images do generate discussions. But that being said, for many it's also easier and cheaper to spread out across Instagram for images, Facebook for exposure, and Twitter for quick updates and such, then cross promoting them as many are on all 3 for example. And to also utilize Tik Tok as well. It tends to be financially more rewarding for some too. I think forums have lost viability for multiple reasons, though they still have some purpose. Not long ago on a forum I ran someone that hadn't posted before popped on and made a quick comment about how forums are dead and social media is where to be. So yeah. While some social media sites come and go, it's highly unlikely Instagram, Youtube, Twitter, or Facebook will be anytime soon. And those are ones people utilize most. Unless they start to become too consumer unfriendly. So looking back at the dead forums in this thread even recently, it makes one wonder what went wrong for some to close that people seemed to be praising. Cost? Lack of activity or interest? Something personal? It's that kind of stuff that can turn people off forums to go to general more stable social media outlets like Facebook. It's a tough situation the whole way around. When your social media page is more busy than the forum, then one has to ask why and what can be done to change that.
  2. Part of it I think is the influence of social media. The other part is that maybe some were forums with rather niche content, or were already in a flooded market of similar forums. Also, it may have been hard to advertise the forums to gain much interest. I also think some were hobbyist or were looking to make money but couldn't find the right footing and interest. The thing is you can offer a ton of content, but if it's content also easily able to be found elsewhere especially on social media, you likely will be overlooked. That's why I feel it's important for forums to evolve beyond what they have been. They still serve a purpose. But it's a matter of trying to find that purpose and gain that footing that is lost. That's also why I feel forums need to be and feel more personal and not just a place to go to make posts then move on and to be so impersonal. Part of the reason social media tends to do good is because of that personal level of attachment and to get in and out. Forums tend to not have that as much. When you visit a forum you'll see a decent skin, maybe some content, and a bunch of threads and posts that all feel rather impersonal. There isn't much of an 'in and out' to forums. There are multiple steps just to make a thread or post. With social media, those steps are generally stripped down. Want to make a post or status? It's all right there in front of you. Responding to a status is as simple as responding and hitting enter. Want to make a status? Make one then hit enter. While there are some benefits to forums, I sometimes think even forum owners and creators struggle to find that benefit beyond there maybe being deeper discussion. Because as the forums that have went MIA also suggest, you can't rely on them sticking around either. Plus many forum owners also have social media accounts in hopes of driving attention to the forums. Problem is from what I usually see, they stay on social media and don't translate as much to the forum. The thing is, why is no one asking why? Why is no one asking what can be done with forums to better translate them to a wider group of people? Or are forums just set to always be taking up the rear in terms of attention by people? It's sad to see so many potentially good forums gone in such a short amount of time.
  3. Amazing how many forums shown in this thread are no longer active. Even from just a few years ago.
  4. This is a carryover from the invisionalpha thread I made on this matter. Check there first before commenting here as there was a bit more added there and I don't want to have to re-cover everything unless it's a copy and paste from there. IPB 4.5 is looking great! I'm stoked for it for sure. However even with all of the improvements I was surprised to see profiles are still as stagnant as ever. While I understand not everything could be covered in 4.5, not seeing some sort of profile update was a bit of a surprise. We've all see the threads and posts about social media and forums. That while forums still serve a purpose, they seem to be losing the war to social media. A lot of ideas are floated around about how to change that such as you can log-in using social media, share stuff to social media, post links from social media, maybe gain a few social media type of features. But still it's just a bandaid. So where does the real problem lie? It lies with how forums are still stuck in an old way of thinking, as well as the fear of just becoming a social media knock off. VB, IPB, and Xenforo profiles are generally pretty blah. Most people tend not to really do much with them or pay attention to them in general. When people come to a forum, they are generally limited to just what they see. The key is to engage them. Not just with content, but with each other. It's not always an easy task, but it can be done. Members should do more than just come to a forum for content or to share content. They should be able to engage with members on the forum, but also much more efficiently through the profile on a more personal level rather than just a basic one. So how do you encourage members to do something with their profiles, while also getting other members to engage with them on their profiles. Part of this I believe lies in the postbit. It's being used wrong. Right now even with 4.5 when you hover on their username you get a generic popup with any header they have posted (which for many forums isn't often it seems), last visited, content count, joined, Message, Find, and Ignore User. All pretty generic and useless content overall. Then you go to their profile and it's generally still pretty generic. Sure admins can make some uneven adjustments, but generally it's still not enough to engage the members to engage more directly with other members. Sure you can add a widget to the homepage showing latest statuses, posts, etc., but how many really pay attention to those? The profile page and postbit could be used to better enhance member engagement on the forum, but also with each other. Content on the profiles should be more front and center rather than clicking a bunch of tabs. It should want to engage the other members that visit it. Forum owners could have the ability to drag and drop profile specific widgets similar to how Pages works, into specific blocks. The post bit should be a window into that profile. Rather than hovering on the name to see a generic useless profile info, why not click on the name that would bring that profile page into the current page? It could take up maybe 25% of the bottom part of the screen (though would be adjustable by owners), pushes the current page up or pops up over that bottom part, then when you are done you can click on the current page you are on and the profile page will drop back down. You're not leaving the page you're on, you're engaging not just in the existing thread but also that members profile. The postbit could also be used to share statuses and status updates on the fly. Remember, the profile is to reflect who the member is. Not that they are just a random name with no face. These are suggestions and ideas that should be looked at. Social Media is meant to bring people closer together, even if they disagree. Forums easily should be able to be that and more. And while some things could be done by CSS changes or what not to fix the profile issue, it will take some re-imagination on how to make it more than just a static page most people ignore and the closest they get to knowing other members are some random posts on forums. Just like with Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and others, you have a profile. You use that profile to share content but also to have others come to your profile and engage with you. Forums should be doing the same thing rather than just seeing profiles as a generic thing. Involve them. Bring them more front and center. I think it's time to take a closer look at them and how members can become more excited and engaged to use them. It benefits the forum as it not only keeps people on the forum a bit longer, but also helps create a more personal and social atmosphere. What are forums? Are they just a place for the faceless and rely on content posted by random members most will never get to really know? Are they meant to just be anonymous sources of info? Or do they help broaden the social aspect by engaging content AND social aspects of members? Time to start asking some of those questions. What is the purpose of the profile page? How can it be used to better motivate members and help create a more social atmosphere? Etc Etc. It's absolutely time to re-evaluate their role on forums. I see tons of potential with them and member engagement on the forums but also amongst each other.
  5. Glad to see my suggestions have once again yielded some awesome looking fruit. 🙂 Looks much better in terms of spacing! Things don't need to be jammed together, but too much white space just looks horrible. I think this is a great step in the right direction. A bit more tweaking with the spacing on widgets and little things here and there and it's gold! Keep the awesome surprises coming!
  6. I joined way before 2010. I'm like a mythological creature in these parts. I'm here as fast as I disappear for awhile. lol. I'm generally known by the long time IPB staff. Not sure if it's entirely for good reasons or because I can make legendary long posts. I still remember the old 'Subway' jokes. lol IPB has come a long way. I look forward to its future!
    Great plug-in. Just wish there was more selective options for the video. Such as an overlay that would blur the video a bit so it's not so distracting. Or options to play video only in certain forums and areas. Watching a video background re-load on every page does get distracting. So I think there would be a bit more control over the video stuff. Other than that great plug-in!
  7. Looks much better! The movie one seems to work great now on all themes. The description is the only thing left on the music one as you can see from the images from 2 different themes. I'm not sure if that only happens on longer descriptions since the movie descriptions were short and didn't give that same effect. But as you can tell music one the description is filled in with color and it overpowers the text. * Update. Regardless of text amount its still doing this.
  8. Is there a way to darken the text or put the content in it's own box or themes that may be like mine? The text is light and the background is transparent on my theme so the movie description content isn't visible much of the time. I've attached an image. The product itself is working great though. Any ideas or recommendations? I have the same issue with the music version of this too. Also if the database doesn't have their image on file, the image comes across as broken when retrieved. Not sure about the music one yet, but the movie one for sure is doing this.
  9. I'm still scarred from those images on Twitter. lol

  10. How do I do a complete uninstall. I screwed up with my forum and now I can't uninstall it without giving a 500 error. It's affected anything I try to uninstall in applications. Is there an SQL command so I can remove all traces of videobox from the database in hopes it resolves the problem? The issue wasn't caused by videobox, but it seems I can't uninstall anything without it being because of Videobox from my screw up in the file folder (not the SQL).
  11. What about manually re-entering the old BB code. Would that work to fix the problem?
  12. Can't wait for the converter to be upgraded/updated. Whenever that'll be.
  13. Also notice that when I go to view theme images in the template in the Admin CP, none are showing. Might all be part of the same problem for me I'm guessing. :/
  14. [03-Dec-2014 08:23:19 UTC] PHP Warning: require_once(init.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/....../public_html/index.php on line 12 [03-Dec-2014 08:23:19 UTC] PHP Fatal error: require_once(): Failed opening required 'init.php' (include_path='.:/opt/alt/php55/usr/share/pear:/opt/alt/php55/usr/share/php') in /home/....../public_html/index.php on line 12 [03-Dec-2014 08:24:40 UTC] PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined method IPS\Theme\class_core_global_forms::rowDesc() in /home/....../public_html/system/Helpers/Form/FormAbstract.php on line 249 [03-Dec-2014 08:24:58 UTC] PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined method IPS\Theme\class_core_global_forms::rowDesc() in /home....../public_html/system/Helpers/Form/FormAbstract.php on line 249 [03-Dec-2014 08:25:56 UTC] PHP Fatal error: Cannot use object of type IPS\Db\Select as array in /home/....../public_html/system/Theme/Theme.php(558) : eval()'d code on line 1719 [03-Dec-2014 08:26:27 UTC] PHP Fatal error: Cannot use object of type IPS\Db\Select as array in /home/....../public_html/system/Theme/Theme.php(558) : eval()'d code on line 1719 [03-Dec-2014 08:26:29 UTC] PHP Fatal error: Cannot use object of type IPS\Db\Select as array in /home/...../public_html/system/Theme/Theme.php(558) : eval()'d code on line 1719 [03-Dec-2014 08:30:16 UTC] PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined method IPS\Theme\class_core_global_forms::rowDesc() in /home/......./public_html/system/Helpers/Form/FormAbstract.php on line 249 These are the only errors it shows in the error log. And this is for GD. It is installed: GD SupportenabledGD Versionbundled (2.1.0 compatible)FreeType SupportenabledFreeType Linkagewith freetypeFreeType Version2.3.11T1Lib SupportenabledGIF Read SupportenabledGIF Create SupportenabledJPEG SupportenabledlibJPEG Version6bPNG SupportenabledlibPNG Version1.2.49WBMP SupportenabledXPM SupportenabledlibXpm Version30411XBM Supportenabled
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