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Guests, Adsense and Default theme

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I use basically two themes, but with the addition of a new ad source, I am trying to go to three.

Where I have today/had

  • Subscriber theme - that did not have Adsense tags or site embedded ads

  • Default theme - which was the theme for all registered members (non-subscribers) and Guests - it carried Adsense tags (auto ads) and site selected embedded ads

Where I am trying to get is to

  • Subscriber theme - that does have Adsense tags or site embedded ads

  • Default theme - for registered members (non-subscribers) - selected site embedded ads only

  • "Guest theme" - for guests that will employ Adsense (autoads) and site embedded ads (but not necessary)

The problem I'm running into is my default theme will show to the guests and they can shift to it, rather than join the site.

If I make the Guest theme the default to solve the problem above, then the Adsense (autoads) makes it into the other two themes.

Are there any similar experiences or recommendations on how to achieve this? Not showing default theme to Guests might do it, but I don't see that capability.

I appreciate the insight.

  • Community Expert

Ads from another theme would not shift from one to another. What I suspect is happening there is its not switching themes when people log in. Have you checked this with the theme menu at the bottom first of all?

Also, could I ask, are you using the built in ad system? If so, would you not be better to use ad permissions?

  • Author

I am using the built in ad system and have no problems there.

My Subscriber theme is having no problems either - it did not have Google ad code in its header

My Default (member) theme is showing Google adsense auto-ads right now. I cleared the "header" in V5 and the ads continue. I wonder if the code I placed in the actual header in V4 is still directing ads to this theme. IF I can stop auto -ads on this theme the only other thing I'm trying to figure out is how to disallow a guest from selecting the default theme.

If the default theme is only running ads because of legacy code in header, than that solves it. I can make the Guest theme the default. But seeing these ads pop up where there is no code is problematic. Can you see if there is code from V4 in the cloud?

Would be nice to have the ability to set the default theme per user group.

I don't use the inbuilt ad system, mine are injected in by a third party, I use targeted group code to wrap around their js so it only loads to specific user groups.

Now with the ads, I have a sticky footer ad, it's the best performing ad, the downside is I can't use the mobile footer menu.

What would be nice is to have that second theme which is automatically applied to the group that has paid to go ad free, that theme can have the mobile footer menu.

Yes I can say to them, look at the bottom, select this theme, but if we had the ability to select theme per user group which automatically applied on login, now that would be bob on. I'm sure other user cases would find this helpful like above.

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42 minutes ago, Day. said:

Would be nice to have the ability to set the default theme per user group.

You can limit theme selection by member groups. Not sure if that helps for your use case.

29 minutes ago, Jim M said:

You can limit theme selection by member groups. Not sure if that helps for your use case.

Yeah I know, it helps, just not perfect. As I say, be nice to have the option to automatically assign a theme to a group to make it their default.

  • Author
2 hours ago, BradTBP said:

My Default (member) theme is showing Google adsense auto-ads right now. I cleared the "header" in V5 and the ads continue. I wonder if the code I placed in the actual header in V4 is still directing ads to this theme. IF I can stop auto -ads on this theme the only other thing I'm trying to figure out is how to disallow a guest from selecting the default theme.

If the default theme is only running ads because of legacy code in header, than that solves it. I can make the Guest theme the default. But seeing these ads pop up where there is no code is problematic. Can you see if there is code from V4 in the cloud?

Is this something that should go to Support? Thanks.

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3 hours ago, BradTBP said:

If the default theme is only running ads because of legacy code in header, than that solves it. I can make the Guest theme the default. But seeing these ads pop up where there is no code is problematic. Can you see if there is code from V4 in the cloud?

Version 4 items would not impact version 5 themes.

  • Author

I guess I should go to Support, because with nothing in the V5 header box, I'm continuing to get ads from Google. I need some help. If it is not possible that it got carried over, than I have no idea. Thanks.

  • Community Expert
20 minutes ago, BradTBP said:

I guess I should go to Support

You are in support :)

21 minutes ago, BradTBP said:

because with nothing in the V5 header box, I'm continuing to get ads from Google. I need some help. If it is not possible that it got carried over, than I have no idea. Thanks.

Are you sure that this is not anywhere else in your settings? Keep in mind at any time you turn on auto ads in Google, it turns it on everywhere in all scripts. It is a top-level setting.

  • Author

I have two themes that don't have the adsense <head></head> code, one shows ads, the other doesn't. I'm not sure where else it could be.

And the new Guest theme has it and it is displaying

  • Author

In V4, I'd go to the global template I believe. On V5 I'm looking at it in Customizations/Themes/Edit. If that is blank, where else should I look?

  • Community Expert

Did you create a template hook for this? Did you add it in the Google Analytics area?

  • Author

Nope. Like I said, on V4 I copied it in between <head></head> only for the non-subscriber (Member) theme. The Subscriber theme, I did not.

Edited by BradTBP

  • Author

Thank you., Jim.

Subscriber III 5.0 is functioning perfectly, no code, no ads

Bulls 5.0 is not, no adsense code in V5 Themes/Edit/Header and Footer, but shows the same adsense ads as Guests 5.0

Guests 5.0 has adsense code in V5 Themes/Edit/Header and Footer and is showing ads as expected

Once the ads are out of Bulls 5.0, I want to make the Guest template default so that guests can't go to the limited ad Bulls 5.0 theme. I will use Invision Ads App to populated 5.0, no adsense.

  • Community Expert

Your custom block called "TBP26 Vert" has Google Adsense code on it and another block called "Fixed rectangle 970x90" that also has Google Adsense code in it. As mentioned, Google Auto Ads are a top level item so any ad code that renders on the page will also render auto ads.

  • Author

I was just coming to say I saw those still rendering even though they are disabled in the ACP.

I didn't want to delete the blocks yet. but I will do that now.

ADDED -> I deleted those ad blocks and cleared cache... auto-ads still showing...

Edited by BradTBP

  • Author

Oh I had some in custom blocks...deleting

14 minutes ago, Jim M said:

Your custom block called "TBP26 Vert" has Google Adsense code on it and another block called "Fixed rectangle 970x90" that also has Google Adsense code in it. As mentioned, Google Auto Ads are a top level item so any ad code that renders on the page will also render auto ads.

That seems to have done it. Thank you Jim.

Surprises me if the Google code is not in that theme's header, the Auto-ads will pull over to it....

Well on to next stage. Thanks.

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