known issue Courses Quiz Settings: How does "Passing Score" work?

[Christian Meixner]

For course quizzes you can globally set a "Passing Score" which can be any number greater or equal 0.

But how does that affect the course quizzes?

Our course quizzes usually have like 5 to 15 questions and we score 1 point per question. So the users can get between 5 and 15 point. I want them do pass the quiz if they answer 75% of the questions correctly. So I've set the "passing score" to 75 but I don't know if that's the way it's meant to be, because it says "score" not "percentage" and the users can't even get 75 points if he answers 100% correct.

Also It would be hard to make all the quizzes in a way that all answers always sum up to the exact same total score to make a global setting of an absolute score work?

 

 

And what happens if I set the "Passing score" to like 2500?

[Marc]

You seem to have invented a percentage setting there, that doesnt exist in the platform. As the setting says, its a percentage score they have to get to pass. So if you have one where there are 15 questions and you are giving 1 point per correct answer, if you want 75% of them to be correct then you would be putting the passing score as 12 (as its actually 11.25 and you cant have part of a point).

In answer to your question on "What is you set the passing score to 2500". The simple answer is, everyone would fail.

[Christian Meixner]

1 hour ago, Marc said:

You seem to have invented a percentage setting there, that doesnt exist in the platform. As the setting says, its a percentage score they have to get to pass.

Sorry, but I think I don't understand what yo mean by that.

The screenshots above are from the platform (AdminCP). We did not customize that. What do you mean by I "have invented a percentage"?
I also don't see where the statement "As the setting says, its a percentage score" refers to. Because the setting literally says "Minimum score required in order for the user to pass the quiz and complete the module" and "passing score" and when editing a question in a quiz you assign it a "score".

Maybe I miss the details here, because I'm not a native English speaker. But for me that refers to the very same: an absolute score as a passing limit. Not a relative percentage.

So if it actually is a percentage (very much preferable), I guess wording should be changed for that setting. Also there should be a upper limit of 100 for that field. That would help to understand that setting.

Edited September 26 by Christian Meixner

[Marc]

Its not a percentage, and not sure where you are seeing the word percentage there. Its an absolute score. So if you add 25 there, then the user would need 25 points in order to pass

[Christian Meixner]

Oh, ok. Now I understand. I got your first reply wrong. Sorry for that!

But then that whole setting would not be very useful, because it is a global setting. That means, that every quiz in ever module in every course needs to be designed in a way, so that all questions always sum up to the same total score. Otherwise, it feels random to the user how many questions of a quiz need to be answered correctly to pass it. I mean some quizzes have like 5 question others may have 20. Well, yes one could change the individual score for each question. But what if you add another question to a quiz later? Then you have to change all scores for all other questions in a quiz to match the total again?

So, an absolute passing score should be set on quiz level, to be individually suitable for each quiz.
But a global setting should be a percentage value to be applicable for all quizzes.

 

At least what I've observed from my tests is, that users pass the quiz if they answer all questions of a quiz correctly, even if the total score does not exceed the set limit. 

I'd like to give some margin for wrong answers. But we currently have 22 quizzes in 18 courses with a total of more than 150 questions. It's impossible to make them all fit the same total passing score. So it's always 100% or nothing. 😕

[Christian Meixner]

Sorry, it's me again. But that can't be right!
I've done some further test and for me it looks like that global setting "Passing Score" actually is handled as a percentage value.

See my test.

I've created a simple course having 1 quiz with 4 question scoring 1 Point each. So the quiz has a total of 4 points.

If "Passing Score" is set to 80:

Result for answering 3 out of 4 questions correctly is failed (red "75%" in the top right corner):

 

Now if I set "Passing Score" to be 70:

The result for the very same quiz is "passed" (see the 75% in the top right corner is green now):

 

And if you set "Passing Score" to more than 100 then you fail at the quiz (red colored "100%") even with all questions answered correctly.

 

So it's not just in my mind. The setting says "Passing score" (an absolute value, just as you explained in your second answer) but it actually is handled as a percentage value (That's how your first answer reads to me, despite the actual setting does not tell that it expects a percentage value.)

I think to get this straight at least the wording of the setting needs to be fixed.

And it should not be possible to set it to more than "100", because that will break quizzes.

 

 

Edited September 26 by Christian Meixner

[Marc]

40 minutes ago, Christian Meixner said:

So it's not just in my mind. The setting says "Passing score" (an absolute value, just as you explained in your second answer) but it actually is handled as a percentage value (That's how your first answer reads to me, despite the actual setting does not tell that it expects a percentage value.)

I think to get this straight at least the wording of the setting needs to be fixed.

And it should not be possible to set it to more than "100", because that will break quizzes.

Yes. Looking at that I would tend to agree, and will get a bug  report in for that