Well, "AI" (or "KI" in Germany) is a very common topic these days, but you can't search for that in IC, because each search term requires 3 letters at least.

You can combine it with another term using quotes though, like "ai coding", but that advanced kind of search is not what users type in the box. And if you search for 'ai coding' without the quotes, then the ai part is dropped silently.

I guess we either need a customizable list of allowed two-letter search terms or reduce the minimum letters for a search term to 2?

What do you think`?

Edited April 14Apr 14 by Christian Meixner

+1 for this suggestion.

@Christian Meixner @Moestuin

I just tried a search for "AI models" at my community and it returned the results as expected. It did not return results for "models".

Edited April 14Apr 14 by Como

From my understanding the limit comes from the underlying database and not Invision. The default limit is 3 characters. You would have to change it in the database config.

https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.4/en/fulltext-fine-tuning.html

13 hours ago, Como said:

@Christian Meixner @Moestuin

I just tried a search for "AI models" at my community and it returned the results as expected. It did not return results for "models".

Well, right here in the forum it does not:
https://invisioncommunity.com/search/?&q=ai%20search&type=forums_topic&quick=1&search_and_or=and&search_in=titles&sortby=relevancy
In our own Community it's exactly the same.

12 hours ago, Hatsu said:

From my understanding the limit comes from the underlying database and not Invision. The default limit is 3 characters. You would have to change it in the database config.

https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/8.4/en/fulltext-fine-tuning.html

I don't think we, as users, can do that in our cloud hosted communities?

1 hour ago, Christian Meixner said:

Well, right here in the forum it does not:
https://invisioncommunity.com/search/?&q=ai%20search&type=forums_topic&quick=1&search_and_or=and&search_in=titles&sortby=relevancy
In our own Community it's exactly the same.

I don't think we, as users, can do that in our cloud hosted communities?

Don't know what to tell you expect that I am an Invision Cloud customer (Creator Pro) and quotes work as expected for me.

I just checked; your linked search parameters are incorrect (no use of quotes). Try this instead:

https://invisioncommunity.com/search/?&q=%22ai%20search%22&type=forums_topic&quick=1&search_and_or=and&search_in=titles&sortby=relevancy

1 hour ago, Christian Meixner said:

I don't think we, as users, can do that in our cloud hosted communities?

I expect not. But it would be nice if search allowed uppercase two-letter words such as AI - this would go a very long way to resolve this issue for community operators. I can in understand why most two-letter searches might be prohibited (excessive server load vs usefulness).

1 hour ago, Como said:

Don't know what to tell you expect that I am an Invision Cloud customer (Creator Pro) and quotes work as expected for me.

I just checked; your linked search parameters are incorrect (no use of quotes). Try this instead:

https://invisioncommunity.com/search/?&q=%22ai%20search%22&type=forums_topic&quick=1&search_and_or=and&search_in=titles&sortby=relevancy

I know that quotes will work (see my first post). But average users don't do that, so they don't find what they are looking for. We already set the default from match "Any of my search term words" to match "All of my search term words" to improve search results, because most users don't mess around with those advance options. They simply type their search in the box and hit enter, just in the same way as average Joe uses google.

Also using quotes will only match that exact term. So "AI search" won't find a topic called "AI based search" but without the quotes it would. Users don't remember the exact title of the topics they are looking for, but they do remember some specific key words. And that's what they will search for. Or they just look for some specific keywords to find topics covering those.

At the end the search feature has to work for our community members, not for me as an experienced community admin only.

Ah. I see, @Christian Meixner. I did misunderstand.

If, if, Invision would consider allowing two-letter lower limit on capitalizations, as with 'AI', this would go a very long way to fix this and still prevent searches for words like, 'in' and 'to'. Only uppercase matches would be returned. (Assuming there is no technical reason which prevent this, such as the search index cannot be case sensitive.)

@Como This does not work: https://invisioncommunity.com/search/?&q=%22ai%22&type=forums_topic&quick=1&search_and_or=and&search_in=titles&sortby=relevancy

But i wish qoutes search would be an option to make default. As it matches better search results the user expect then without qoutes.

20 minutes ago, Moestuin said:

@Como This does not work: https://invisioncommunity.com/search/?&q=%22ai%22&type=forums_topic&quick=1&search_and_or=and&search_in=titles&sortby=relevancy

That bit I did understand correctly.

20 minutes ago, Moestuin said:

But i wish qoutes search would be an option to make default. As it matches better search results the user expect then without qoutes.

I regularly make use of quotes to improve search results, both at Invision sites and Google.

I am not sure I would default it to quotes at my site. But as say, an option for this would be nice.

19 hours ago, Como said:

Ah. I see, @Christian Meixner. I did misunderstand.

If, if, Invision would consider allowing two-letter lower limit on capitalizations, as with 'AI', this would go a very long way to fix this and still prevent searches for words like, 'in' and 'to'. Only uppercase matches would be returned. (Assuming there is no technical reason which prevent this, such as the search index cannot be case sensitive.)

... or the suggested whitelist of common / trending two letter terms.

I don't know if people type uppercase in the search box. People are lazy.

9 minutes ago, Christian Meixner said:

... or the suggested whitelist of common / trending two letter terms.

I don't know if people type uppercase in the search box. People are lazy.

I'd prefer to avoid having to keep some kind of list. And some two letter words should be disallowed because of the ridiculous number of search returns this would create.

Instead, I suggest including in the search box default text search institutions, '...or UPPERCASE initialisms'. (Or in a short block of text above the search to explain the options available.) This should be done anyway for those many users who do not realize there are more powerful/targetted ways to search available to them.