@Jim M, Ok, it is done, we are on IPS 5 now, and I'm setting it all up the way we want it. We use a lot of pages for various courses and also some online books. I usually used the 'source' section in the old CKEditor and pasted in HTML, and this had many advantages, like linked tables of contents. I can't find how to do this with this editor. Is there a way to add to it, like with the CKEditor? Which I customised to add TOCs when I wanted? Cheers Alex