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CKEditor 4 is reaching the end of life (source). Instead of jumping onto the CKEditor 5 bandwagon, I propose Invision consider an alternative editor. There are many well-established modern editors such as, for example, TinyMCE, Froala, Quill, and Redactor, to name a few. Any of these would make satisfactory alternatives.
 
CKEditor may be 'old school,' but it has become bloated, larger in file size and load time.  Most of the issues it encounters often have to do with responsive layouts on a mobile device and excessive load time. As mobile continues to dominate the landscape, I feel it may be prudent to focus on an editor development that has kept up successfully with the times with the least issues.
 
Changing the editor should not be expected in the next release. But a roadmap should be considered for a future transition.  Thank you for your time and consideration. 😀

I thought we agreed that you weren't allowed to leave?

Happy Hump Day! Sort of… 
I have a bit of news to share with you: this will be my last Hump Day as I am stepping down from Invision Community. 😢 
I am transitioning to a new role at Amazon. I’ll be creating content and engagement solutions for AWS. 
I’d like to take a moment to thank this community for welcoming me with open arms. When I first started my journey as an Invision Community team member, I focused on community advocacy and connecting clients with the team. We quickly realized my, um... exuberance was better suited in marketing and sales. 
Creating content around Invision Community opened my eyes even further to how brilliantly crafted this platform is and the team behind it.
I've also genuinely enjoyed communicating with industry professionals every day who showed interest in adding a community component to their business.
So many incredible Achievements (😏) happened along the way; I’m grateful I was a part of Invision Community’s success as we blazed through the 20-year anniversary. 🎉 
Now, you won’t be rid of me entirely. My own community, BreatheHeavy, will still remain on the Invision Community platform. I look forward to staying connected with all of you here!
Thank you for engaging and interacting with me these last few years. 
Please feel free to PM me here if you have any feedback, questions or well wishes. 😃 
I want to give a special thanks to @Charles for being my mentor and seeing potential in me (even when I didn't). 
And before I go, here’s a list of updates and changes made to the platform in the last seven days:
 

Thank you, 🙏 
-Jordan
 

Thanks, I’ll take care of this for the next beta. 

Feedback #1
The current flow is as follows:
User requests deletion Email sent User confirms deletion request Admin approves deletion request Account gone I think an "Admin confirms approval of deletion request" step after no.4 above would be useful to guard against accidental clicks on the approve icon.
 
Feedback #2
Manually deleting a user via the Members page produces this asking what to do with the member's content:

Approval of the account deletion request doesn't present this, so what will happen to the user's content?
Answer: equivalent of "Leave" and then "Anonymize attribution"

CKEditor 4 is reaching the end of life (source). Instead of jumping onto the CKEditor 5 bandwagon, I propose Invision consider an alternative editor. There are many well-established modern editors such as, for example, TinyMCE, Froala, Quill, and Redactor, to name a few. Any of these would make satisfactory alternatives.
 
CKEditor may be 'old school,' but it has become bloated, larger in file size and load time.  Most of the issues it encounters often have to do with responsive layouts on a mobile device and excessive load time. As mobile continues to dominate the landscape, I feel it may be prudent to focus on an editor development that has kept up successfully with the times with the least issues.
 
Changing the editor should not be expected in the next release. But a roadmap should be considered for a future transition.  Thank you for your time and consideration. 😀

CKEditor 4 is reaching the end of life (source). Instead of jumping onto the CKEditor 5 bandwagon, I propose Invision consider an alternative editor. There are many well-established modern editors such as, for example, TinyMCE, Froala, Quill, and Redactor, to name a few. Any of these would make satisfactory alternatives.
 
CKEditor may be 'old school,' but it has become bloated, larger in file size and load time.  Most of the issues it encounters often have to do with responsive layouts on a mobile device and excessive load time. As mobile continues to dominate the landscape, I feel it may be prudent to focus on an editor development that has kept up successfully with the times with the least issues.
 
Changing the editor should not be expected in the next release. But a roadmap should be considered for a future transition.  Thank you for your time and consideration. 😀

I wish for the option (in a future release) to disable any and all outgoing e-mails from the system. Have you lost your password? Make a new account. Want to be notified? Log in and check your notifications. The ideal setup would be for there to be no outgoing e-mail at all. I notice there is already the option not requiring e-mail confirmation when registering (that's a good start).

To clarify:
TinyMCE - since 2004 (17 years) Froala - The parent company (Idera, Inc.) since 2000 (21 years), the editor since 2013 (8 years) Quill - since 2013 (8 years) Redactor - since 2009 (12 years) Nothing I have suggested is a short-term 'fly-by-night' type of company. They are it for the long run. 😉 

Back in the day (long ago), nearly every project and development I know about used CKEditor. In its heyday (gold age), WYSIWYG editors were still a relatively new concept (I feel old. ), and CKEditor was considered top of the line. Times have changed.
Ideally, you want your editor not to be the focus of your development. By that, I mean to say the editor should blend effortlessly in the background as something you do not notice (an afterthought). So many developments no longer use CKEditor because the editor itself often gets in the way.  I cannot count the many times when I have heard or experienced why something was not functioning right because of the editor.  Or why something could not be developed or extended because of the editor. The editor (CKEditor) is not the afterthought it should be.  Even here on Invision, the editor and its limited functionality has proven problematic by the sheer request to work around it https://invisioncommunity.com/search/?q=editor&quick=1&type=forums_topic&nodes=499
Speaking personally, I love where Invision is going. I admire their creativity in where they are taking the development. I enjoy many of the features and am looking forward to the new features they have suggested they have planned. But I dislike the editor. It is my 'pet peeve' for Invision. I know of only two developments that still use CKEditor (the other is not a forum, and they use CKEditor 5). In both of them, I dislike the editor (v4 and 5). Why? Because in both of them, nearly all the issues I encounter, all the bugs I stumble upon, and all lack of functionality and adaptability surround CKEditor.  Besides Invision, only vBulletin, whose market share is shrinking and development has become stagnant, concerning forum software, still uses CKEditor.   
I do not expect Invision to change editors overnight. As SeNioR- pointed out, it is not easy to change editors, not even to CKEditor 5.  So regardless of the discission (whether we stay with CKEditor or change editors), we are still looking at a large transition. We have two (2) years to think this through and explore our options before CKEditor 4 reaches the end of life. Plenty of time to think this over.
You'll note I did not specify any particular editor (besides a few examples I gave). My request is not to promote any specific one, only that an exploratory investigation be conducted and that Invision considers their options.
 

Hi team, I think that we need one field more for legal name in the site. Because the site name can be different that Legal name for mails and legal pages like Terms, Privacy Policy or others.
We cant write "ACME Entertainmet LLC" as Site Name because this appears in every page as title page, so we need a "Site Name" like "ACME" and Legal Name like "ACME Entertainmet LLC".
I post here and not in suggestions because this field is missing and I think that is essential for upcoming updates.
Thanks a lot!

His suggestions are in the very first post of the topic I believe.  

That would be disappointing. I have used CKEditor 4 and 5. It is irreconcilable, incompatible with our needs and not mobile web friendly in terms of usability and performance. I would see it as a missed opportunity to improve and better Invision’s future. While CKEditor may have once been the mainstream web editor of choice; I understand and sympathize with the reasoning on why many developments no longer use the editor.
It is, of course, your development and your vision, but I would urge you to reconsider and give it further thought.

That would be disappointing. I have used CKEditor 4 and 5. It is irreconcilable, incompatible with our needs and not mobile web friendly in terms of usability and performance. I would see it as a missed opportunity to improve and better Invision’s future. While CKEditor may have once been the mainstream web editor of choice; I understand and sympathize with the reasoning on why many developments no longer use the editor.
It is, of course, your development and your vision, but I would urge you to reconsider and give it further thought.

Speaking personally, from my own unique perspective. I manage an active community overseas that could be classified as servicing within an emerging developing country. Mobile devices are the primary source of medium there to access both the world wide web and our community. It is important to consider the responsiveness, performance, and compatibility of the software with the build of those mobile devices. I was aware CKEditor 4 did not match our required needs and waited with anticipation for the development and release of CKEditor 5. It had to do with another project. Unfortunately, the inflated hype surrounding CKEditor 5 was most disappointing, to be more marketing and less substance of functionality. I am further disappointed to say that has not changed since the initial release of CKEditor 5.
Invision has been taking some impressive and bold initiative with their development. They seem willing to expand the realm of online community development and I have found it most impressive with their continued ability to, metaphorically, “step out of the box and think differently.” However, beyond testing the functionality and versatility of the software, I could not actively deploy Invision into any meaningful live community with the current limitation the CKEditor imposes on mobile devices. I suppose if mobile was not such a required need, I would have done so two (2) years ago.
While I would certainly like to see it happen sooner, around the time of the end of support of CKEditor 4. I hope in the far future, around the time of Invision 5.0, the development will revisit the possibility of implementing an editor that does not hinder mobile browsing.

That would be disappointing. I have used CKEditor 4 and 5. It is irreconcilable, incompatible with our needs and not mobile web friendly in terms of usability and performance. I would see it as a missed opportunity to improve and better Invision’s future. While CKEditor may have once been the mainstream web editor of choice; I understand and sympathize with the reasoning on why many developments no longer use the editor.
It is, of course, your development and your vision, but I would urge you to reconsider and give it further thought.

Hello everyone. I hope and trust you are all doing well.

It has been a little more than a year since I initially made my inquiry. CKEditor 4 is still on track for the end of product life support this coming 2023. I initially made my inquiry and suggestion for the possibility of a new editor last year, while we were two (2) years away. Plenty of time to give some serious thought and consideration. It is 2022, and we still have until next year, so there is no rush. And even after CKEditor 4 reaches its end of life, I imagine the final patched release can hold us over for a little while after.

That said, the clock to that moment is still ticking away, so I thought I refresh the spirit of the discussion with a little reminder. Any alternative to CKEditor in the future would be most certainly welcomed. I have listed a few suggestions in my original post on page one. But I know there is a wide variety of alternative editors out there. If you know of one you believe would make an even better fit, please share with the community. It could be beneficial to the community and the development of Invsion’s future products and services.

As always, I thank you for your time and consideration. I wish you all the very best. 😊

This is definitely very much on our minds. 🙂 

CKEditor 4 is reaching the end of life (source). Instead of jumping onto the CKEditor 5 bandwagon, I propose Invision consider an alternative editor. There are many well-established modern editors such as, for example, TinyMCE, Froala, Quill, and Redactor, to name a few. Any of these would make satisfactory alternatives.
 
CKEditor may be 'old school,' but it has become bloated, larger in file size and load time.  Most of the issues it encounters often have to do with responsive layouts on a mobile device and excessive load time. As mobile continues to dominate the landscape, I feel it may be prudent to focus on an editor development that has kept up successfully with the times with the least issues.
 
Changing the editor should not be expected in the next release. But a roadmap should be considered for a future transition.  Thank you for your time and consideration. 😀

CKEditor 4 is reaching the end of life (source). Instead of jumping onto the CKEditor 5 bandwagon, I propose Invision consider an alternative editor. There are many well-established modern editors such as, for example, TinyMCE, Froala, Quill, and Redactor, to name a few. Any of these would make satisfactory alternatives.
 
CKEditor may be 'old school,' but it has become bloated, larger in file size and load time.  Most of the issues it encounters often have to do with responsive layouts on a mobile device and excessive load time. As mobile continues to dominate the landscape, I feel it may be prudent to focus on an editor development that has kept up successfully with the times with the least issues.
 
Changing the editor should not be expected in the next release. But a roadmap should be considered for a future transition.  Thank you for your time and consideration. 😀

CKEditor 4 is reaching the end of life (source). Instead of jumping onto the CKEditor 5 bandwagon, I propose Invision consider an alternative editor. There are many well-established modern editors such as, for example, TinyMCE, Froala, Quill, and Redactor, to name a few. Any of these would make satisfactory alternatives.
 
CKEditor may be 'old school,' but it has become bloated, larger in file size and load time.  Most of the issues it encounters often have to do with responsive layouts on a mobile device and excessive load time. As mobile continues to dominate the landscape, I feel it may be prudent to focus on an editor development that has kept up successfully with the times with the least issues.
 
Changing the editor should not be expected in the next release. But a roadmap should be considered for a future transition.  Thank you for your time and consideration. 😀

A markdown editor would be an acceptable alternative https://stackedit.io/ 
demo: https://stackedit.io/app
 

CKEditor 4 is reaching the end of life (source). Instead of jumping onto the CKEditor 5 bandwagon, I propose Invision consider an alternative editor. There are many well-established modern editors such as, for example, TinyMCE, Froala, Quill, and Redactor, to name a few. Any of these would make satisfactory alternatives.
 
CKEditor may be 'old school,' but it has become bloated, larger in file size and load time.  Most of the issues it encounters often have to do with responsive layouts on a mobile device and excessive load time. As mobile continues to dominate the landscape, I feel it may be prudent to focus on an editor development that has kept up successfully with the times with the least issues.
 
Changing the editor should not be expected in the next release. But a roadmap should be considered for a future transition.  Thank you for your time and consideration. 😀

Was there a technical reason why this has not been standardized? I am curious as to why SVG support has not already been added.
SVG has been around for 20 years (technically, 19 years, 20 this September). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Vector_Graphics It became a browser standard 10 years ago (since 2011) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Vector_Graphics#Native_browser_support I am surprised to learn even discontinued Internet Explorer 9 - 11 all supported SVG.
Or was this an oversight? 🤔