Davyc

A pre-upgrade check wouldn't solve much as once you have the files up there, you either proceed, or you restore a back-up which is not a great choice either.

We are going to be working through the marketplace queue to ensure we can get as many apps as possible through the approval process.
 

That is the issue @Matt these apps 'are' 4.7 compatible and they are in the marketplace.  I've received a reply from the author who has provided replacement files and the support page now shows no errors at all, but the app is still locked.
 
 
 

I've contacted the author, but my issue is not with something that needs to be corrected, rather it is that this information was provided 'after the upgrade' had that warning appeared prior then I would have contacted the author and waited for a solution before updating.  I'm now at the mercy of the app provided to discover the issue, correct it/them and provide and update to the marketplace where it will be queued for approval.  
I'm wondering how many apps will fall under this lock out as the apps are still available in the marketplace and they can still be installed from the ACP.  There should have been a warning prior to upgrade to prevent clients sites from being rendered inoperable.

I'm curious to know why information regarding certain plugins was not checked before the upgrade began.  I have two applications that have now been 'locked' because of some PHP 8 incompatibilities.  My site is now completely crippled because the app that is locked is the mainstay of the site.  As it stands my site is now useless.  Had the below warning appeared prior to upgrade I would not have proceeded.

@Davyc, new version is already awaiting for review.

I think the real solution to this is to give us the flexibility to set it how it best fits our communities. One size never fits all. 

A huge thanks to @Rikki for everything he has done to help bring IPS to where it stands now.  It's always sad to lose a valuable member of the development team, but the man has to go where he believes he can do the most with his talents and to secure his and his family's future.  All good wishes and a fond farewell to this amazing talent.

Bon Voyage 🙂

A huge thanks to @Rikki for everything he has done to help bring IPS to where it stands now.  It's always sad to lose a valuable member of the development team, but the man has to go where he believes he can do the most with his talents and to secure his and his family's future.  All good wishes and a fond farewell to this amazing talent.

Bon Voyage 🙂

A huge thanks to @Rikki for everything he has done to help bring IPS to where it stands now.  It's always sad to lose a valuable member of the development team, but the man has to go where he believes he can do the most with his talents and to secure his and his family's future.  All good wishes and a fond farewell to this amazing talent.

Bon Voyage 🙂

A huge thanks to @Rikki for everything he has done to help bring IPS to where it stands now.  It's always sad to lose a valuable member of the development team, but the man has to go where he believes he can do the most with his talents and to secure his and his family's future.  All good wishes and a fond farewell to this amazing talent.

Bon Voyage 🙂

A huge thanks to @Rikki for everything he has done to help bring IPS to where it stands now.  It's always sad to lose a valuable member of the development team, but the man has to go where he believes he can do the most with his talents and to secure his and his family's future.  All good wishes and a fond farewell to this amazing talent.

Bon Voyage 🙂

A huge thanks to @Rikki for everything he has done to help bring IPS to where it stands now.  It's always sad to lose a valuable member of the development team, but the man has to go where he believes he can do the most with his talents and to secure his and his family's future.  All good wishes and a fond farewell to this amazing talent.

Bon Voyage 🙂

You can’t change the default block position this way. Those are containers with templates executed within them. Moving the containers couldn’t do anything to stuff inside them. 
But if you create what you need in those slots as a Pages block, you can then inject it at any place you want in the theme templates. 
{block="your-block-key"}

This is the mindset of the SM crowd - I just don't get it either, it's banality gone mad.  But it is what it is.
I've just started to use the Clubs feature again but I've modified the look as it wasn't really appealing.
My site is currently offline as I'm making some major adjustments to it, but this is what a club looks like:
Directory:

And when in the club:

It's basically three template changes and a lot of CSS, but they look a lot cleaner.

Which is why I used the Google search as an example - the tool is there but people don't look at it.  So the 'reading' in general argument you are using is based on your own opinion.  In the 'real world' people tend to have tunnel vision and only see what they want to see, not necessarily what's there; hence the example of the google search.  I wasn't attempting to say that Google search was better, simply pointing out that people don't see the tools available.
Once you start 'guessing' that a user will want to search anywhere but in general, then problems will arise.  I'm not saying that the new search is 'bad' but it is flawed by making assumptions on behalf of a user.  An example would be, if I search for something and a topic is flagged that I 'may' be interested in but isn't what I'm looking for, why in the world would I want to search that topic?  The system makes that assumption, and also assumes that the user is 'aware' that a filter has been applied.  Considering all of these factors when the user goes to search for something else, they would need to remove the filter that they may not be aware of.  Filters should be a user decision, not a system decision.  So, it would be of benefit to have those filters highlighted in an unmistakable manner so the user is aware of them.  Now this 'does' occur in mobile view and a drop down of filters is shown so the user is 'aware' of them.  
When I first updated to 4.7.1 and I went to search for a movie on my own site that I knew was there but didn't want to go on a hunt for amongst hundreds of others, I typed the name in the search box - zero results.  With some investigation I discovered that because my home page was a Pages page, the search 'assumed' I wanted to search Pages.  I had to download a plugin to remove Pages from the search to make sure that my visitors were able to search my entire site and not something the system assumed I wanted to search.  Would they actually have known what Pages was if they did see it in the search bar?  Would they understand that this was a filter, or something that the way the search bar was designed? 
The best way out of this situation is to allow admins to default the search to 'Everywhere' until a user decides to apply a filter.  If others want to use the new method then that option should be there too.  It would save a lot of pointless debates about theories and opinions that may or may not be valid 🙂
 

It may not be realistic but that's what they do.  We have to remember that these are ordinary people who are 'used' to just typing in what they are looking for.  As @Markus Jung noted people are used to Google and YT, WP and SM etc, and just type and click/tap.  Attention spans are generally at a low eb for regular use items and to 'expect' people to notice is as unrealistic as expecting that they do notice.  We have to put ourselves in the same shoes as users, not admins and not experts at using the system.  A search bar implies you can search the site - if you want to drill down then we need to educate users that they can drill down, if they want.
An example that I have come across many, many times with people I know (including clients) is with Google search.  Not one of them knew that by clicking on 'tools' that they can have more options to drill down further depending on what they are searching for.

My point being that 'expecting' people to notice this (when it has never been that way before) is expecting too much.  Over time users who visit regularly may notice and get used to it, but the casual passer-by will probably not, and that can cost you a member.  Search 'Everywhere' should be the starting point and then let a user know that there are other options available by making them more noticeable (push it to them).

It may not be realistic but that's what they do.  We have to remember that these are ordinary people who are 'used' to just typing in what they are looking for.  As @Markus Jung noted people are used to Google and YT, WP and SM etc, and just type and click/tap.  Attention spans are generally at a low eb for regular use items and to 'expect' people to notice is as unrealistic as expecting that they do notice.  We have to put ourselves in the same shoes as users, not admins and not experts at using the system.  A search bar implies you can search the site - if you want to drill down then we need to educate users that they can drill down, if they want.
An example that I have come across many, many times with people I know (including clients) is with Google search.  Not one of them knew that by clicking on 'tools' that they can have more options to drill down further depending on what they are searching for.

My point being that 'expecting' people to notice this (when it has never been that way before) is expecting too much.  Over time users who visit regularly may notice and get used to it, but the casual passer-by will probably not, and that can cost you a member.  Search 'Everywhere' should be the starting point and then let a user know that there are other options available by making them more noticeable (push it to them).

Yes, it's in the marketplace and it's free.
 
My point exactly - when people see a search box they just type in what they're looking for and really don't pay attention to whatever filters have been automatically applied - too much hand holding going on.

That's my point, we admins or regular users know how search works, but that's not the reality for all new users or for a visitor who is just passing through your website.
Users are used to simply writing what they want to search for and expecting some result.
 
Awesome, is this available on Marketplace? In my view, I see no point in allowing users to find pages that I have not referenced them for them to click on.

In general when users search they don't expect to be limited to where they are, in fact it can be counter productive.  Example. I search Everywhere and find what I want and go there, I then want to find something else and go to search and if it's not where I am currently located a negative search results, which could mean to the person searching for what they are looking for is not on the site; but it may be somewhere else where they're not searching.
I agree with the drop down appearing automatically when the search box is clicked, this then apprises the user that there are more options.  We all know that those options are there, but someone else (perhaps a majority of users not up to date with what IPS is pushing) may not know and give up and leave.
I mentioned this elsewhere when my home page is a Pages page and set as default (otherwise it would not be my homepage) which meant that when someone went to search for something they did not find it, because the search bar was searching in Pages; not good.  My only resolution was thanks to @Adriano Faria plugin that removes Pages from search was my search bar functioning again.  
It's fine for us because we 'know' but a lot of people, including visitors, will not know and it may not always appear obvious.  It could mean the difference between gaining a new member or losing them because they can't find what they're looking for.  It was a good idea, in principle, but not in practice.  I would say at least give Admins the option to choose how the search functions on their sites.

In general when users search they don't expect to be limited to where they are, in fact it can be counter productive.  Example. I search Everywhere and find what I want and go there, I then want to find something else and go to search and if it's not where I am currently located a negative search results, which could mean to the person searching for what they are looking for is not on the site; but it may be somewhere else where they're not searching.
I agree with the drop down appearing automatically when the search box is clicked, this then apprises the user that there are more options.  We all know that those options are there, but someone else (perhaps a majority of users not up to date with what IPS is pushing) may not know and give up and leave.
I mentioned this elsewhere when my home page is a Pages page and set as default (otherwise it would not be my homepage) which meant that when someone went to search for something they did not find it, because the search bar was searching in Pages; not good.  My only resolution was thanks to @Adriano Faria plugin that removes Pages from search was my search bar functioning again.  
It's fine for us because we 'know' but a lot of people, including visitors, will not know and it may not always appear obvious.  It could mean the difference between gaining a new member or losing them because they can't find what they're looking for.  It was a good idea, in principle, but not in practice.  I would say at least give Admins the option to choose how the search functions on their sites.

Or (and in my opinion even better) make it default to search everywhere. If you get too many results, you can then narrow the search in the next step.

Hello,
I'm starting to get used to the simplicity of the new search bar, but there's one thing that bothers me, although it's not a problem.
Desktop users are having a bit of a hard time searching because they aren't paying attention when selecting the location of content.

 
They end up not having a good search experience, due to a simple lack of attention. And it gets worse when your theme is dark.

Sometimes the user is looking for a video, but is in another app and ends up being filtered automatically.

 
How to solve this?
Make the menu appear automatically when clicking on search bar, as it was in past.
So the user will quickly know where to look for your content.

I like the new search bar, however there is a small issue with it.  It will default to searching whichever app is set as default rather than starting with everywhere.  I first noticed this when I updated to 4.7.1 as I have my default app set as Pages because my home page is a Pages page and the search was defaulting to Pages.  Now, I'm not currently using Pages for anything other than my home page, so anyone who does not notice this change and tries to search for something that is anywhere but on a Pages page, they will get a 'Not Found' message.
I had to install @Adriano Faria remove pages from search app to allow people to search the site.

Thank you @Davyc