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  1. Agree
    CheersnGears reacted to loccom in New Live Community Features!   
    i have around 15 licences and pay a small fortune and now being restricted? I am also been using invision for 17 odd years or more and now feel like Invision do not appreciate loyal customers.

    It's not easy making money from communities and I would imagine some really do struggle and having a cloud solution really doesn't work for them.

    Slight sour taste now.
     
  2. Agree
    CheersnGears reacted to Afrodude in New Live Community Features!   
    I've been a client of IPS for about 17 years, and I am disappointed of the direction they are going in now. They are creating new features for their cloud clients even though they have several bugs that have gone unfixed for months. I haven't renewed my license because I feel like an idiot for paying for something that, after 17 years, I might not be allowed to use.
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    CheersnGears reacted to Nakamura RTS in New Live Community Features!   
    I understand the need to  make a profit via overpriced first party cloud hosting, but given the direction this feature exclusivity is heading, please consider adding opt-in features to self-hosted plans, at a recurring cost. We already have to pay renewals for applications, so why not create an additional set of premium features that also have a renewal fee, should people want them?
    Personally I don't care for these current extra offerings about live statuses, but perhaps one day you'll make something exclusive that will be of more interest.
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    CheersnGears reacted to media in New Live Community Features!   
    Agree, this kind of things slowly making me feel bad about this script that I have for 20 years. 
  5. Agree
    CheersnGears reacted to MMXII in New Live Community Features!   
    Very cool feature, but sadly self-hosted communities (again) are left behind. 😞
    I do not like the route IPS is going...
  6. Agree
    CheersnGears reacted to AlexWebsites in New Live Community Features!   
    Why don't you use a pre-fix with the title like: [Cloud Only] New Live Community Features!
    Save all us self-hosters some time in our day...
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    CheersnGears got a reaction from Pjo in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    I'm in the process of building a new project and have it started in Wordpress + BuddyPress + bbPress... part of the way through the bbPress setup I was kinda disappointed in the forum features and was thinking to myself "I could do this in a full suite version of IPS self-hosted".
    Thanks for removing my doubts of why I went with Wordpress in the first place.  No point starting a new project on software that is destined to get starved of features by the developer in order to push more clients into $549/m plans.
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    CheersnGears reacted to Matt in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    Things can change, but looking at our 'things to blog' queue, there are 2 cloud only features (talked about here before) and 3 all platform features (two not talked about at all but one of them is a very popular request). We also have a fairly big thing in the pipeline that is all platform.
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    CheersnGears reacted to kotaco in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    They are stating self-hosting will continue to receive updates, however the writing appears to be on the wall that the exclusive cloud features will continue to accumulate to attempt to push more people that way. 
  10. Agree
    CheersnGears got a reaction from Maxxius in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    Don't tempt them please.
  11. Agree
    CheersnGears reacted to AlexWebsites in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    I hope you’re getting an IPS employee discount…😉 these plans are just not financially comparable to self hosting, especially for multi-site owners such as myself. No matter how much math I do, it’s not even close for me.
  12. Thanks
    CheersnGears reacted to Daddy in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    You can't really believe that. Complaining is what got us Zapier for self hosting and the return of 6 month renewals instead of 12 months, and a dismissible "upgrade to cloud button" just to name a few within the past couple months. 🙂
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    CheersnGears got a reaction from AlexJ in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    Indeed.  I looked into it too and it doesn't seem difficult.  CPanel has some nicely detailed instructions and once installed, Node.JS apps can be added via the control panel.
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    CheersnGears got a reaction from AlexJ in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    I'm curious what you are using Node JS for.  Is this for the realtime stuff to run?  I ask because Node JS install is supported by CPanel and Plesk these days to where it is almost a drop-in addon.
    I would add that you (as in IPS) could avoid a bunch (but never all) of this blow back by changing the way you message these things.  Here's how I would have written this blog post:
    Enterprise Cloud Customers: Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature
    See what members are currently most engaged with in real time in your community by using our new Trending Content feature included in our latest release, 4.7.0. 
    Our new Trending Content feature, available on our Business & Corporate/Enterprise plans, automatically rounds up a list of engaging topics that are most active in the present moment within your community and proudly displays them for other members to see and contribute to.  Our Cloud Platform provides the robust power and leverages <insert technologies here> needed to monitor what users are most interested in, in real time, to keep both you and your users up to date on these latest topics.
    <rest of the existing post>
     
  15. Agree
    CheersnGears got a reaction from Daddy in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    Indeed.  I looked into it too and it doesn't seem difficult.  CPanel has some nicely detailed instructions and once installed, Node.JS apps can be added via the control panel.
  16. Haha
    CheersnGears got a reaction from Daddy in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    Don't tempt them please.
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    CheersnGears reacted to RevengeFNF in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    Matt, i think I'm also not wrong if i say that not many community platforms are cutting down features from the self hosted clients.
    I know your official stance is that there are no plans to shutdown the self hosted clients, but the reality is that it seems so.
    There is no single reason to make trending content exclusive to the more expensive cloud plans, besides trying to force your clients to move to the cloud. That's the only reason.
  18. Agree
    CheersnGears reacted to RevengeFNF in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    From what i've seen, the new relevant features of IPS 4.7 are this ones:
    Alerts Real Time Who's Typing Real Time Who's Viewing Search will include images Sentiment analysis data collection Trending Content Then we have some minor changes and bug fixing.
    Of all the new relevant features in 4.7, only Alerts have come to the self hosted clients.
    I'm following Invision since 2003, almost 20 years ago, and never in my life i've seen a major number upgrade with only one new relevant feature for self hosted clients.
    Six new relevant features, and only one comes to the majority of your clients.
    My curiosity is eager to know what will come next. Will self hosted clients get IPS 5.0? I have my doubts, if all the best features start to be exclusive to the Cloud Plans, there is no reason for a 5.0 other than the Cloud.
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    CheersnGears reacted to jair101 in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    $549/m to get your humor/meme topic on the top of the sidebar, yay!
    On a more serious note, these ranking signals are rather...basic. There is much more that can be done with modern technologies - weighting of different kind of reactions, analyzing the length and structure of a reply and so much more. Right now this sounds as dumb as it gets, The topics with most replies usually get most reactions and most views, these are not three distinctive metrics, they are so closely tied together that for most communities the popular and trending topics list will be virtually the same. 
    Also, topics are kinda lame content container anyway, but thats entirely different discussion. 
    Seriously, turn on the classic legacy most popular topics widget together with the new shiny trending one and let us see the difference and content offered by both in practice. I am rather skeptical there will be any meaningful difference, but my mind can be changed. 
     
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    CheersnGears reacted to beats23 in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    It's part of the IPS marketing strategy, created to disappoint their self hosting customers.
     
     
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    CheersnGears reacted to whitetigergrowl in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    Good heavens. Who on earth is IPS aiming for? Just corporations or the mega rich?! Some of these decisions fracture a community.
    It seems IPS has moved from the hobbyists and put their eggs in the corporate basket. As such, that is who they are trying to attract with some of these decisions. Though I question how well some of these decisions will actually work. 

    I get the fact they need to make money. But I'm just stunned by some of the business decisions lately. Be it towards customers or businesses/ Almost none of which encourage forum adoption or use, but instead encourage looking at other sources. 

    "So why are people, including businesses and enterprises moving away from forums?"

    *Reads IPS blog and looks at their prices with the nickel and diming and small feature additions that try to get passed as ground breaking or new.*

    "Oh yeah, that's one reason why." 

    While IPS has a better product than VBulletin, even though IPS has never had a higher ranking than #2 in the forum community, they clearly see themselves as #1 and price themselves as such for everyone. 
    I fear these short term decisions will have long term negative consequences and could eventually push IPS towards VB territory in various ways. Reminds me of when VB did the same sort of things before their fall. 
    It's an old feature that's been tweaked and repackaged. I wouldn't call it innovation when this is really nothing all that new. Be it through mod or an existing feature that was tweaked. This isn't innovative. This is trying to catch up.
  22. Like
    CheersnGears got a reaction from RevengeFNF in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    I'm in the process of building a new project and have it started in Wordpress + BuddyPress + bbPress... part of the way through the bbPress setup I was kinda disappointed in the forum features and was thinking to myself "I could do this in a full suite version of IPS self-hosted".
    Thanks for removing my doubts of why I went with Wordpress in the first place.  No point starting a new project on software that is destined to get starved of features by the developer in order to push more clients into $549/m plans.
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    CheersnGears got a reaction from SeNioR- in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    I'm in the process of building a new project and have it started in Wordpress + BuddyPress + bbPress... part of the way through the bbPress setup I was kinda disappointed in the forum features and was thinking to myself "I could do this in a full suite version of IPS self-hosted".
    Thanks for removing my doubts of why I went with Wordpress in the first place.  No point starting a new project on software that is destined to get starved of features by the developer in order to push more clients into $549/m plans.
  24. Haha
    CheersnGears got a reaction from Askancy in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    I'm in the process of building a new project and have it started in Wordpress + BuddyPress + bbPress... part of the way through the bbPress setup I was kinda disappointed in the forum features and was thinking to myself "I could do this in a full suite version of IPS self-hosted".
    Thanks for removing my doubts of why I went with Wordpress in the first place.  No point starting a new project on software that is destined to get starved of features by the developer in order to push more clients into $549/m plans.
  25. Like
    CheersnGears got a reaction from AlexJ in Spark more real time engagement with the Trending Content feature   
    I'm in the process of building a new project and have it started in Wordpress + BuddyPress + bbPress... part of the way through the bbPress setup I was kinda disappointed in the forum features and was thinking to myself "I could do this in a full suite version of IPS self-hosted".
    Thanks for removing my doubts of why I went with Wordpress in the first place.  No point starting a new project on software that is destined to get starved of features by the developer in order to push more clients into $549/m plans.
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