Kjell Iver Johansen

I myselve are thankful for topics like this. I upgraded to 4.6.2 on monday, and it was all OK, and a minor upgrade from 4.6.2 - to 4.6.3 should be quick to do, and still stuff like this happens. It is a reminder that even this small upgrade could go bad and the only way to find out that is via topics like this.

I don’t think. I would expect at least more a ten hump thing.

Reason for asking is that some PC's don't have "Home" button anymore, and it is really annoying not having that button on the page on this site. Most of the forums I visit have installed a plugin that fixes this and that is great, but why not here and why not as part of the software as default?
The new shortcut I need to remember ob this laptop is: Home = Fn + Left Arrow, End = Fn + Right Arrow
 

Reason for asking is that some PC's don't have "Home" button anymore, and it is really annoying not having that button on the page on this site. Most of the forums I visit have installed a plugin that fixes this and that is great, but why not here and why not as part of the software as default?
The new shortcut I need to remember ob this laptop is: Home = Fn + Left Arrow, End = Fn + Right Arrow
 

On one of my sites people constantly contact me/us about setup of their phones, and most of them use fb messenger.
Today I noticed a message in facebook that I can use Facebook Chat Plugin - did anyone try that service?
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/messenger-platform/discovery/customer-chat-plugin?ref=fbb_cbb
 

I answered this here:
I can offer my condolences to a friend in a discord chat with a sad emoji without making them feel bad that all I have to say is "I'm sorry".
When it comes to bad faeces that happens in someone's life there isn't always "words" that can convey the empathy that you feel for them. I'm going to throwback to when I admitted why I disappeared in December and had a complete breakdown and was upset about a really faecesty update announcement that I couldn't install. I don't think I need to bring back that particular hardship but I can say, save for 3 people that actually replied (1 IPS person and 2 members I think) most of the people that responded were exclusively in reactions, which I actually appreciated significantly more than them replying to the thread with "I'm so sorry Morrigan I hope everything is okay". I knew, from the reaction, that they felt for me and they wished me the best. In fact those reactions were almost more meaningful to me in the moment.
There is a significant difference between empathy and sympathy (I've been taught that through years upon years of tech support). Empathy means you feel for the person and their plight while sympathy means you feel bad for their plight but don't understand it. For the most part people that are empathetic/understand what you're going through and may have meaningful ways to express how they feel to you and give you great words of wisdom or at least a true kind word that may help. Someone that feels sympathetic for you won't have those words but they will understand that you are going through a rough time. The Sympathetic ones won't have anything meaningful to say but they can certainly say "I support you" with a simple reaction.
To me, sad, was never a negative reaction. It was always a sympathetic reaction. "I know its hard but hang in there boo"

 
Follow Back Friday, its a reference to a Twitter trend
 
To The Old Man, at this point I think the Meow is more of an ironic reaction now lololol.
 
 
 
Quick edit:
This thread in particular:
There are many posts in it that can do with a "sad" reaction that don't require empty platitudes of "I'm sorry" in it. Otherwise this whole thread would be filled with apologies about how negatively the virus has affected people's lives. Being able to share your trouble and get support without in-genuine apologies is SUPER important in a thread like this.

Hi Jordan,
Thanks for your thoughts. Not having a go, but to be honest, personally I don't really want or expect to be challenged! To be fair, I've already answered this in previous responses and others have too. I don't feel that you have really answered some of my points that I clarified. 
Funnily enough, your stance on not backtracking isn't exactly coming across as being open to flexibility when it comes to the changes you're making to this community and the response did actually make me want to reach for a confused reaction! If ever there was a reason to use it, I feel it's representative of my reaction in response to your post. 😊
We seem to be going backwards with this community, against a backdrop of pandemic's emotional and financial turmoil going on, ideally we need to either be moving forwards or finding some stability, especially as we're now practically mourning the unexpected departure of such a knowledgeable, respected, prolific and supportive member of the IPS team without a chance to wish him well. I know that people come and go but still, IMHO he's left such a massive void. I'm not wanting to draw conclusions and there's a lot of talent and knowledge within the IPS company, but just this morning I read that IPS is dropping the facility to copy custom Pages blocks in 4.6 because it's overly complicated; surely copying and duplicating blocks is a basic facility for any modern page builder or CMS software. I'd actually be embarrassed as a CEO if my CMS couldn't do this in 2021.
Also, apologies as I'm in my early fifties and I'm not firing on all thrusters these days, but I just don't understand the cat reaction! What does it actually mean or reference, if it wasn't solely an April Fool's day inspired joke to make us chuckle, which it did me? I mean I've used it for fun which I thought it was for, and I'm not against it, but going back to your challenge, why do feel that adding a cat is any different or more acceptable than that of a saddened/empathy reaction in that it should require a follow up post/comment?
I feel that there's perhaps other similar things going on at the moment. I mean I have absolutely no idea what this Hump Day thing is all about, or FBF topic prefixes or whatever that is. We keep getting told that this a professional forum community, one that is representative of commercial products, which obviously it is, but where do cats and these bizarre references come into the equation? It's not really feeling inclusive, it's feeling more exclusive, to those hip enough, or those who have the time to read every topic or those in the know.
I kind of feel that we are also somehow almost going backwards in terms of new feature announcements being vaguely revealed within these obscure topics, where as for years they've been properly revealed and well demonstrated in the corporate blog. When people started referring to a new feature called Awards, I then had to search for the subtle announcement.
Anyway, thanks for reading.

No not at all.
Just a sidenote:
But english is not my first language and I try my best to understand the humour  and «in between lines stuff» that happens in a language that is not my first language. I guess there are many members in the same situation as me also - so do not forget that you have an international audience. 

I know you have not forgotten, but in my sites I try to think my site as how a new member sees it, and to much «noise» can be a turnoff for some seriously newbies. 

No not at all.
Just a sidenote:
But english is not my first language and I try my best to understand the humour  and «in between lines stuff» that happens in a language that is not my first language. I guess there are many members in the same situation as me also - so do not forget that you have an international audience. 

I know you have not forgotten, but in my sites I try to think my site as how a new member sees it, and to much «noise» can be a turnoff for some seriously newbies. 

Thanks everyone for their responses and thoughts either way. 😊

I agree. I’m here lurking and seriously trying to read and learn stuff that I can use on my own sites. All this childish noise (like meow and posts with only gifs) might get some members here a good time laughing but it just gets this site less serious for users like myselve. I have enough of that noise on other sites - fb, insta. 
Also don’t forget that there is a lot of visitors around that seriously consider using this software and the discussions you have here is important to showcase what the software can do.
 

I agree. I’m here lurking and seriously trying to read and learn stuff that I can use on my own sites. All this childish noise (like meow and posts with only gifs) might get some members here a good time laughing but it just gets this site less serious for users like myselve. I have enough of that noise on other sites - fb, insta. 
Also don’t forget that there is a lot of visitors around that seriously consider using this software and the discussions you have here is important to showcase what the software can do.
 

This is a product support board, not an emotional support board.  Enough with all the touchy feely emojis, gifs and any other means of expressing emotions, whether positive or negative.  All communications should be done in a completely neutral fashion.
To ensure neutral communications going forward, please remove all reactions and the emojis and gif buttons as well from the editor in these forums as a few people can't seem to help themselves from being emotionally expressive.  The old saying goes, a few bad apples always ruins it for the rest...

The +1 button was a great idea but please return or improve the number of reactions here at the IPS Community forum. It's feels to me IMHO almost like we're being stifled by some dark, manipulative branding and marketing PR department or something. Reactions allowing the ability to show you you're saddened, disagree or are confused about something and help provide a balance of opinion, freedom of expression and thought.
Thanks for reading.

Just out of curiosity - why don’t you just use the forum here for internal support? 

Agree. My single most important plug-in is the one that hides links from guests. When I installed the plug-in several years ago the new users sign-up tripled. But off-course, signing up for a new site is one thing, another is if the will contribute to the community later on.
But the idea of just showing smaller images or maybe blurred images for guests appealed to me as well.

Agree. My single most important plug-in is the one that hides links from guests. When I installed the plug-in several years ago the new users sign-up tripled. But off-course, signing up for a new site is one thing, another is if the will contribute to the community later on.
But the idea of just showing smaller images or maybe blurred images for guests appealed to me as well.

Kind of strange that vbulletin has this feature and that it is so diffucult here. Wouldn’t it help if you disable lightbox (or whatever that pop-up with lagre image is called) for guests via a plug-in?
 

Agree. My single most important plug-in is the one that hides links from guests. When I installed the plug-in several years ago the new users sign-up tripled. But off-course, signing up for a new site is one thing, another is if the will contribute to the community later on.
But the idea of just showing smaller images or maybe blurred images for guests appealed to me as well.

Back-up! 

There is. I used it a few years ago.

I used a service called email to rss, and then converted the email-rss to topics via rss import. It worked out nice.
I registred that email adress on a lot of websites to receive bargains, and everytime the shops had a sale email - a topic was created. 

Worked out of the box for me - did not do anything than adding app ID and Secret and oembed. I used the same ID for Instagram and facebook
This is my settings in developeraccount

Reason for asking is that some PC's don't have "Home" button anymore, and it is really annoying not having that button on the page on this site. Most of the forums I visit have installed a plugin that fixes this and that is great, but why not here and why not as part of the software as default?
The new shortcut I need to remember ob this laptop is: Home = Fn + Left Arrow, End = Fn + Right Arrow
 

I am too waiting for this to work - automatic embed is important for some users. I have some top posters that use Instagram and posts images from that community, and it is very important these days.