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Marketplace was really good option to find everything in one spot. Now i need to register on 20 different sites and half I don't even remember. 
It's like Apple telling to it's customer, here take iPhone. You want apps? Go on developers site and install from their. Jeez, what a nightmare. 
Take care of your health. Rest everything will go on. 
PS I am one of the customers who is unhappy because support/ticket system is gone and have to deal with broken donation system in store. 

Hi Martin, 
I've really attempted to use IPS for my big gaming community but honestly, at this point, I have to agree. IPS seems to be moving to appeal to corporate websites with things like (courses) instead of focusing on what other forum sites do. It seems that awesome features I loved are being removed like the integrated support system and more. With the marketplace being removed it is removing a good and awesome opportunity for developers to make money. I am going to start to begin to move to another forum site. 

I've been using IPB since 2006 with the MSSQL driver.   I was always attracted to the flexibility of the platform with minimal programming.
Recently tech support has become more difficult.  It's harder to find code examples and removing the marketplace killed a creativity source for me.   I had a stroke a few years ago, so my development skills are retarded, but still I believe this is one of the poorer organized forms in regards to technical documentation.
A wiki, kept up to date by your community, would really help in development IMHO.
Good luck all!
Martin

Cloudflare R2 is a storage method like Amazon S3 and both are Api Compatible.
R2 is a lot cheaper than S3, there are the prices:

Would it be viable for IPS to add support for it?
It would be a really upgrade for IPS self hosting clients, since in R2 bandwidth is free, we only pay for storage and operations.  

But if I have a forum license, why do you have to FORCE me to pay more (from 110 to 199 per year), giving me applications like Pages, Commerce and Blog which honestly are garbage since you can get better results using other software?
In my project I use Forum and Gallery and honestly, Gallery is so poorly structured and neglected by your development that it is not worth buying. You should offer a light package, only forum.
I also have another project, an Italian support forum, invisionita, which is 13 years old. With these prices, it is becoming unsustainable for me to continue maintaining the project, translating the platform into Italian and helping with guides, etc. I cannot afford to pay $199 for unofficial Italian support.

Why does it seem like IPS just tries to sneak in a new pricing structure? This happened last time as well. Why can't you guys just make a blog post stating "hey are pricing structure is changing", why does it always have to be so secretive? It's only when a member notices it and brings it to light.
Well looks like this will be the end of IPS for me and will be switching back to Xenforo then. I always assumed V5 was just an update, not a whole new force to cloud. 

I am a tad confused by this post. For someone like me that just wants to use the 'forums' portion and I currently pay $80 a year for self-hosted are you saying the price is going to increase per year now?

Cost of doing business I guess. But most of people like me cannot make switch as third party devs goes awol and their designs unsupported, add-ons broken. So would IPS take some decisions on making moves over this? It doesn't work if thirdy party devs fails to meet the requirements, unless one day we won't have any third party and all inhouse 🤔
 
Is this going to be different in case of yearly or same monthly rules apply? i.e. need to pay for missed year as well?
 
Frankly, as of now my overall cost for renewal for 3 licenses is abt 170-180$ I think,so about $360/yr, but if I make a switch that directly raises that to abt $600/yr. I ain't seeing any profits to me here + I keep an extra license just for my own development and testing activities with real users, so I get actual feedback for my major projects, so that license I may or may not renew for long period of time.

Maybe for you, and for people who have all the apps. But if customer X has only 'Forums', he will pay an additional $80 more for applications he will not use.

What about current customers?

Thanks, Charles. This is a serious change that should be described on a blog or in a dedicated topic.
For me and for many clients it is breaking news 😬

We no longer sell Invision Community Classic with individual applications. This is in preparation for v5 where there will no longer be a separation for the "applications" like there is now. It will just be all bundled together and more tightly integrated.
Old pricing for full Invision Community Classic was $850 upfront and $300 per year.
New pricing is $499 upfront and $199 per year.
You can reach out to sales if you have questions about pricing or options.

Hello,
https://invisioncommunity.com/buy/self-hosted/

 
I don't need all these applications, how can I buy it with my choosen apps only as it was before?
 

It won't. I believe we'll be requiring 8.1.

Cloudflare R2 is a storage method like Amazon S3 and both are Api Compatible.
R2 is a lot cheaper than S3, there are the prices:

Would it be viable for IPS to add support for it?
It would be a really upgrade for IPS self hosting clients, since in R2 bandwidth is free, we only pay for storage and operations.  

Red Hat based distros have one big advantage, they have a 10 years long term support, while Debian is only 5 years.
At least for me, that matters a lot.
Regarding 3rd party repos, security patches, etc, they also have all that.
From my experience on working with some Linux Distros, Red Hat distros are the most stable ones. 

I don't know about you, but I'm wondering if it's perhaps overdue that IPS got stuck into a huge performance and speed based review and implement it in the next medium sized update! I think a lot has changed in recent years in relation to site performance. Core Vitals in Lighthouse as many admins will be aware are now much more important in terms of SEO ranking, performance isn't just for the obsessed enthusiasts any longer!
Google Search Console tells me that on one of my IPS Communities, my Mobile Pagespeed test result sucks, just 28%-30% at present, so I started checking a few things under the hood. I like to keep my sites high performing, so I was quite surprised it was so low. 
One thing I found out in minutes looking at the optimisation list and then checking my IPS configuration is that if you have the IPS Lazy Loading feature enabled, it doesn't apply to your uploaded images in Advertisements or Post Author Member Group Icons. Both are shown in my topic view so I get scored down on mobile in particular.
I think it's now time that Native Lazy Loading was offered, either as a choice or as the default if enabled.
Also where possible IPS should support Local WebP conversion via the Task Manager.
I know some of us sometimes bash IPS for not delivering more obvious updates like Gallery, Blog, Pages and Commerce improvements for the sake of instead quick things like disabling features but IPS4 is quite a huge behemoth these days, no matter your pricey VPS, CiC, use of Redis pools etc.
More performance improvements I'd like to see considered include...
(Now admittedly I'm basing this list on a similar big audit that another website framework I invested in conducted and implemented last year. These are the options you can now simply toggle off/on as a result in their Dashboard. They can make a huge difference to bloat.)
Dynamic Modular Framework
Enable this to allow the IPS Framework to only load code that are actually used on the page, and process the logic for the features in actual use.
Dynamic CSS
Dynamic CSS could greatly reduce CSS file size by dynamically generating only the styles and assets necessary for the features and modules you actually use. This eliminates most if not all CSS file bloat and greatly improves load times.
Dynamic Icons
Font Awesome is 2 generations behind. The FA4 icon font could be broken up into various subsets. These subsets are loaded only when needed based on the modules and features used on each page. If you need access to the entire icon font on all pages (for example, if you are using lots of FA icons in a custom theme or want to allow members to insert them via the post editor), then you could disable this option and load the entire icon font library on all pages.
Load Dynamic Stylesheet In-line
This option dequeues the IPS style.css file and prints the needed contents in-line. This removes a render blocking request and improves the PageSpeed scores of individual pages. However, it also prevents the style.css file from being cached. Since the stylesheet is often smaller when dynamic or critical, it could be recommended to keep this option enabled. Accepted there are some potential CSP-related security concerns with inline CSS an or JS.
Critical CSS
Critical CSS greatly improves website load times and Google PageSpeed scores by deferring non-critical styles and eliminating render-blocking CSS requests. Critical CSS often covers what most users see when first loading the page, so called 'above the fold' content.
Critical Threshold Height
When Critical CSS is enabled, IPS would determine an "above the fold threshold" and defer all styles for elements below the fold. However, this threshold is just a estimate and can vary on different devices. Increasing threshold height will deffer fewer styles, resulting in slightly slower load times but less of a chance for Cumulative Layout Shifts to occur. If you are experiencing CLS issues you can then increase or lower the threshold 'height' via a drop-down low, medium, high setting.
Dynamic JavaScript Libraries
When enabled, IPS would only load external JavaScript libraries when they are needed by a specific sections or modules on the page. This removes unused JavaScript from the main scripts bundle and improves load times.
Improve Google Fonts Loading
Enable caching of Google Fonts and load them inline. This reduces render-blocking requests and improves page load times. Also presents an opportunity to switch to the Google Fonts API, to offer a dynamic dropdown list to allow admin to choose from all available GFonts. The Task Manager could check for and cache new versions of selected fonts in use weekly.
Limit Google Fonts Support For Legacy Browsers
Enabling this option will lower the size of Google Fonts and improve load times, however it will limit Google Fonts support in some very old browsers. You can turn this off to increase support for losers insisting on their older insecure browsers at a slight cost to performance.
Defer jQuery And jQuery Migrate
When possible, jQuery and jQuery Migrate could be moved to the body to speed up load times. If a third party plugin registers jQuery as a dependency, it would be moved back to the head.
Enqueue jQuery Compatibility Script
Some third party scripts may be incorrectly enqueued without declaring jQuery as dependency. If jQuery is deferred, these scripts could break. If you are experiencing console errors after enabling the "Defer jQuery And jQuery Migrate" option, you can enable this option, which will load an additional compatibility script that will attempt to solve the issue. (You can turn this feature off if everything is working fine without it).
Defer Additional Third Party Scripts
Warning: This can cause JavaScript errors in some cases and should be used with care. When enabled, scripts registered by plugins and themes will be deferred to improve performance and jQuery will always be loaded in the body.

@Adriano Fariai updated the to the new 1.2.0 version, and my members started to not being able to edit their posts. I disabled the application, and the bug disappeared.

Cloudflare R2 is a storage method like Amazon S3 and both are Api Compatible.
R2 is a lot cheaper than S3, there are the prices:

Would it be viable for IPS to add support for it?
It would be a really upgrade for IPS self hosting clients, since in R2 bandwidth is free, we only pay for storage and operations.  

I wouldn't be so sure of that. They say the support will last until 2023, meaning it can end at the end of 2022.
Ckeditor 4 was released at the end of 2012, with a 10 year long term support. Unless they want to support more, 10 years ends at the end of this current year.

Cloudflare R2 is a storage method like Amazon S3 and both are Api Compatible.
R2 is a lot cheaper than S3, there are the prices:

Would it be viable for IPS to add support for it?
It would be a really upgrade for IPS self hosting clients, since in R2 bandwidth is free, we only pay for storage and operations.  

Cloudflare R2 is a storage method like Amazon S3 and both are Api Compatible.
R2 is a lot cheaper than S3, there are the prices:

Would it be viable for IPS to add support for it?
It would be a really upgrade for IPS self hosting clients, since in R2 bandwidth is free, we only pay for storage and operations.  

The recommendations is to use OpenSearch instead of Elasticsearch?

Cloudflare R2 is a storage method like Amazon S3 and both are Api Compatible.
R2 is a lot cheaper than S3, there are the prices:

Would it be viable for IPS to add support for it?
It would be a really upgrade for IPS self hosting clients, since in R2 bandwidth is free, we only pay for storage and operations.  

Cloudflare R2 is a storage method like Amazon S3 and both are Api Compatible.
R2 is a lot cheaper than S3, there are the prices:

Would it be viable for IPS to add support for it?
It would be a really upgrade for IPS self hosting clients, since in R2 bandwidth is free, we only pay for storage and operations.