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Thanks man for the smile 🙂. Yes, I am sure. I have relied too much on WHM/CPanel, and the costs no longer viable. Plesk is reasonable. By unmanaged, I am saying that the host is not monitoring/managing the server.... But in reality, even my managed servers offered little assistance. This change came from Hostgator having my server down for three days, while continually telling me down time would only be 5 to 30 minutes. I had enough of them too... after 14 years of paying for a server with them.

Thanks. Curl is the biggest one now and I am waiting to have a moment to open a ticket with Plesk on it. Plesk actually caused the second server reload, so have been hesitant to go back to them. The site doesn't seem to be suffering from the cURL issue... only that I don't like having an error listed on the support page. Marc, "Fix this" is great! Sometimes it fixes it, sometimes it provides valuable info, sometimes not. No problem with that... I was referring more towards keeping up with the optimal environment for IPS as it moves forward based upon the last image I inserted. Lots of reasons presently for using PHP 7 vs 8... but the CGI engine vs, FPM would break the site in the past... Now I have options of Apache, Nginx, dedicated or not, etc... I was hoping for insight. Similarly when I asked what the optimal version of PhP and Maria/MySql to use... as I could not find it through searching. IPS response was to "use the most current".... but that wasn't exactly correct... Not trying to be argumentative, negative, or flippant here.... just hoping for community help. IPS isn't a one size fits all.

I understand, and I appreciate that. As mentioned above, this is an unmanaged server. The hosting company will not offer me any support. Plesk, however, likely will. THEY have been very helpful. BUT, there are also incredibly talented individuals HERE that may have gone through the same experience and are willing to share their knowledge and experience. ... And I should say that only IPS can give information for what works best for their software. Mostly, you won't even say that... so again, I put out the options my server offers for the experienced that *might* offer valuable experience. My site is not a candidate for IPS's hosted solutions, so I do the best I can to offer the best experience I can for my users.

Update. Using this to change tables from compact to dynamic. One issue from above solved. SELECT CONCAT( 'ALTER TABLE `', TABLE_SCHEMA, '`.`', TABLE_NAME, '` ', 'ROW_FORMAT=DYNAMIC;' ) AS _alter FROM INFORMATION_SCHEMA.TABLES WHERE ENGINE='InnoDB' AND ROW_FORMAT <> 'DYNAMIC';

I am moving my site to an unmanaged server with Centos 7 and Plesk. I've already had the sever reloaded twice now to correct my learning curve problems. Now, I have been googling until my eyes spin to correct the last issues. I am only moving my dev server at present, until I feel I have good enough knowledge and control to move the production server. Any help with the following would be greatly appreciated: The above two errors were received attempting to update to the latest Beta edition. The second prevented the update from continuing. Both are related to the next image: Curl is enabled.... not sure what to do. I can find all kinds of info on how to turn ON the *compact* table type... but not prevent it?? I am guessing the ALTER TABLE error and the *row size too large* error are both related to this *compact* method? That's it... really the two issues.... Database and PhP cURL. There is so much info, but very specific to how, where, when, why..... I find Plesk very limiting configuration wise, but I am sure there is likely an easy answer. Lastly, I have my dev server on PhP 8, while my production server is still on 7.4, due to compatibility issues. What does PhP for IPS prefer to be run as in both 7.4 & 8? Thank you!!!

Not sure how to respond to that!!! Maybe your loop doesn't have an end statement?

The function appears to work. The issue is that it never comes to a completion. It just continues on and on until the site itself times out.

Love this! Greatly needed. My question however is that when I choose to cleanup from the main member page, both options spin and spin and spin, never coming to a completion. I've checked some conversations.... Appears, deleted member replies are gone... but... Not sure how to phrase this, but I would expect the task to complete, error, stop... something... ? Help?

Thank you Randy and Marc. It seemed a huge jump in Version and I did not want to take any chances 😉

Which is best....

Hi Marc... I am using MySQL 5.7.... But MySQL 8 is available and recommended on my server. Do you recommend? Any issues? Thank you!

Jim, again, thank you for the information. I understand this, and I do appreciate it. I'm only expressing my opinion and my experiences and don't wish to incite ire with anyone. However, some developers have expressed information to me contrary to what you have stated of your process. Others are less than pleased when you single out their app as a "culprit" for causing an issue, believing there is no way their app could cause that issue. Additionally, some problems are also resolved by IPS maintenance releases, even though support staff has claimed it is a third-part problem. I don't typically worry about little things, or "fun" add-ons. But this issue is a member group security setting, which I don't understand how the logic would be interfered with by a third-party app. Point in case: If I turn the setting off for the Administrator Group, they no longer can see the history. The moderator group can see the icon for the history, but a permission error is displayed instead. If I turn it off, they can not see the icon. Why is one member group working properly, but not another? A previous issue I had involved new user registrations. They would all error on the users screen, though they would be created but missing pertinent info. I received a similar text chain to this. I found 2 apps and 1 plug in that individual or all together disabled prevented the problem. However, after the next maintenance release, the problem disappeared. A new problem appeared: Anyone registering from a mobile device creates a valid account and an empty account. I can live with that, I just have a lot of skipped member numbers. All that being said, some of my issues have been solved by a third-party making a change to their app, but the major ones have been by IPS making a change. I will do as you suggest and attempt to narrow it down to a particular app or plugin... but it still seems strange to me. Of course, as said earlier, I no longer understand the structure of the current system as I did your systems of the past.

Thanks Jim... but making my site look like a boiler plate isn't very appealing. I really don't know much about the mechanics behind the scenes, but my understanding is that your third-party developer apps go through intense scrutiny and are literally not allowed to touch system tables etc. I may be wrong in saying that.... But, its also my understanding why so many have left, and perhaps that has reduced the headaches you and the other staff have to deal with dramatically. But for a small, and long-time, IPS user like me who pretty much gets this same response with every issue encountered, it is disheartening.

It WAS, when I tested. Feel free to use a different moderator.

Not sure what issue you are having... I have verified the .htaccess twice now... The username is case sensitive, what is entered is accurate and verified.

Sure... MBear is one that I just made a Moderator to test that the report was accurate. I re-entered the passwords, in case they were incorrect.

The moderator member group on my system has the permission to view Display Name History, yet, for some reason, when they attempt to they receive a permission denied error. This is the only Group, other than Administrators that has the permission and it is working fine for Administrators. Can someone assist/advise? Thank you

Thanks all for the help. I indeed had to disable some apps/plugins for things to work. However, the patch IPS released fixed all that. IPS issue, not 3rd party issue.

Followup: IPS released a patch.... I thought, okay... wonder if it will make any difference? I re-enabled the plug-in and the site no longer blew up!! I know it is frustrating for developers and end-users alike, especially since we evidently can no longer create support tickets anymore without a hefty fee. If you have any third-party apps, forget it... The problem is always your apps, not IPS. It has been frustrating for YEARS. In the support forum, that was the answer I received to this issue... "You have an incompatible App or plugin". I paid to have this application written years ago, in fact, I paid for it twice... two different developers. Because IPS doesn't feel that an age restricted site is important, but would be so simple to include a couple options for. I thank Adriano for being here and all the great Apps!

At the risk of sounding like a broken record...... Problems started two updates ago and seemed to be a conflict between Age Bracket and Members Shop. I had different outcomes on two different servers. Since then registrations have been affected with errors and not entering the birthdate. Fortunately, the pugin then forced the member to enter birthdate...again...after logging on. This current update flagged this plugin as incompatible on both dev and production servers. If I enable the plugin, all pages are served as blank white screens. Then I have to set the server in recovery mode, which disables everything, re-enable everything except this plugin. Adriano, can you please take a look?? Thank you much!

Thank you much!! Good to have learned that. It did indeed get me back in and now I can figure out what app/plugin caused issue.

Okay, more info please?? Thank you, I will try that.

Hello, I always update DEV site first before moving on to production. The Beta 2 update, when finished left all browsing on my site, public and private, displaying only blank white pages. I restored the site by reloading the current production release. (Of course, I had file mismatch errors, but everything was functioning normal.) Today, I upgraded site to 4.6.10 release. Same issue. The previous production release is unavailable, and I did not save it. May I please get some guidance on how to handle this? Thank you

Thanks for going through that. It's definitely Members Shop, but perhaps because of another app. So I will test now with Members Shop on, turning off everything else one by one.

I contacted IPS and they determined it is indeed an app or plugin that is causing the issue. Because it is the birthdate that is not being transferred and everything else is fine, I automatically assumed that it must be the age-bracket plugin. But, unfortunately, the problem is with Member Shop. Turning off Member Shop fixes the issue. Unsure if it is an issue between Member Shop and Age Bracket, or Member Shop alone..... But that is the info I have....