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Gallery 5.0 Goals

Development of Gallery 5.0 is well underway, and while we are not quite ready to reveal the product just yet, we wanted to give our clients an outline of what they can expect to see when the new version becomes available. Gallery 5.0 will build upon changes in the 4.x series, while restoring some of the functionality of the 3.x series, delivering a product you can easily understand and navigate that is both modern and fun to use. The next version of Gallery will not see many new features - instead, we are focusing on the existing functionality to ensure the released product is flexible, intuitive and dependable.


Goals

While our goals for Gallery 5 are simple and focused, don't let this fool you. A lot of changes are being implemented to accomplish these goals, and you will notice many small changes that add up to big differences in how the product is used.

We can outline our high level goals as follows:

  • Redesign the navigation, structure and hierarchy Gallery makes use of.
    Terminology notwithstanding, many users find navigating the current release of Gallery to be confusing, and do not understand the relationship between "global" albums and "member" albums. Many changes in the previous iteration of Gallery were made to ensure the software could scale effectively. We have taken many of the concepts of Gallery 4 and merged them with concepts in Gallery 3 to present an interface we think is easy to understand and navigate, and allows the administrator to control the setup of their Gallery.
  • Give administrators more control over their Gallery.
    We have implemented or reinstated many software options that allow administrators to better control what members can do and where. Administrators will now be able to define what types of albums members can create, whether they can delete those albums or not, which album options members can customize, and much more.
  • SEO and efficiency improvements.
    In virtually every release, we review the search engine optimization and code-level optimization of the software, and this release is no different.
  • Interface updates.
    Much of the interface has undergone a complete overhaul as a part of the navigational restructuring of the software. In addition, some new functionality has been added to make navigating through images quicker and easier, and minor feature improvements or additions will be noticed.

By keeping our goals list short and focused, we can put more emphasis on the high-level things that matter most to our clients.


More Information

More information about each of the goals outlined above and changes made to the software to implement these goals will be forthcoming in future blog entries. The software is still very much under heavy development and we are not ready to show off everything just yet. Nevertheless, we wanted to highlight the higher level goals you can look to in the next release, and give everyone a small update on development.


A Teaser

For now, we will leave you with a teaser - the new index page.



Here you can see the top of the index page. In the right hand sidebar we have a block identifying the latest comments and a block identifying the most popular tags used in Gallery. The top of the content area is filled with a featured images slider (if you have any featured images - if you do not feature any, this block disappears, as expected). You can feature as many images as you like, and up to 20 will be displayed in a javascript slider. The slider will display the image (with some details along the bottom of the image), and will automatically show the next image after a couple seconds, cycling through them (and restarting when the last featured image is displayed).

You will also note that the upload button is available. In fact, it is available on every page throughout Gallery, if you have permission to upload images somewhere.




Further down the index page, you will see the category listing. Global albums have become categories in Gallery 5.0. More information will be available on this in a future blog entry. For now, just know that categories are administrator-defined containers that can be set up to [*]Allow albums to be created in them [*]Allow neither (useful if you create subcategories and don't wish for images to be accepted within the category itself, but rather in a subcategory) Categories allow you to specify cover images, and allow you much of the same control you had with global albums in Gallery 4. You can think of categories in Gallery 5 as global albums, renamed, in part to help alleviate confusion and to clarify the relationship between the two different types of containers Gallery allows. You can see from this screenshot that the hierarchy and navigation of Gallery right from the index page has been restored to a more traditional container listing. Finally, at the bottom of the page you will see the 20 most recent images that you have permission to see, in the same slider that was used to display the featured images at the top of the screen. You can see the hint of arrows on either side of the image, allowing you to manually navigate to the next or previous image in the slider (although, as with the featured images, it automatically cycles through each image).
    [*]Allow direct image uploads










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[quote name='topper.' timestamp='1341115898']
PLEASE -- CONSIDER THIS

Add individual photo albums for users to manage via their profile. These photos will only be viewable through their profile, and the user can control who can view them. They can also be commented on. Much like the vBulletin version. This is the ONLY thing keeping me from purchasing a full licence (I'm on a hosted community right now, and won't be for much longer)



I think this would be a bad idea.

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[quote name='bfarber' timestamp='1341321121']
You can view a user's albums in their profile already - why would the albums need to be restricted to only showing from the profile?


I think also a listing in the gallery would be good as well True a person's profile shows the personals gallery but why not make it so that your friends you be friend shows up like a quick link to there gallery. Or even make it so it could show an updated album of people on your friends list in your own person listing of galleries you friend or "choose to watch" and not have to search for it all the time. Does this make sense?

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[quote name='bfarber' timestamp='1341321121']
You can view a user's albums in their profile already - why would the albums need to be restricted to only showing from the profile?


Because this way the albums are more personal and private. Rather than have a global album, there should be an option for users to keep them personal and exclusive to their profile only. Looking at it from an end user's point of view, VB is more end user friendly when it comes to personal albums. It keeps all the user's albums in their profile with good available permissions and the ability to manage their albums all right there.

I would suggest that the handling of end user's personal albums be handled differently than global albums. Similar to that of VB's (it's not copying...it's just as similar to that of other platforms as well!). Personal albums should be utilized inside the profiles for their personal benefit and to showcase to their friends they've added. So maybe the member albums shouldn't be so prominant (admin option) in the gallery. I'd rather not have them showcased in the gallery at all, but rather only available inside the profiles. Others would disagree (admin option!).

Obviously, we can see gallery content in our profiles already. But, I don't think it's on the same level as what is being requested here.

This has been suggested in the past by numerous people, and i'm sure if implimented would make alot of people (myself included) happy. I'd be one of the first to buy a new license. It doesn't seem like too much of a complex thing to add, and would be completely up to the community administrator to enable it or not.

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I purchased IPBoard because I was absolutely impressed with Gallery 4.x., and how it integrated with the board. I was most impressed by the fact that you could see everything "At-a-Glance" instead of having to scroll all over the place to find albums/categories. From what I can see here, you are making Gallery 5.0 look like all the other scripts out there like like Photopost (which I still own and do not use). I would like to request that you make it so we can still have the option of having the Gallery display the look of ver 4.x, which is perfect! Most user like seeing the page at a glance, and not having to scroll to find things. I hope you have read this and will consider what I am requesting. IPBoard has such a modern and fresh look, and changing the interface would make the product look retro like all the other scripts out there.

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[quote name='topper.' timestamp='1341364665']
Because this way the albums are more personal and private. Rather than have a global album, there should be an option for users to keep them personal and exclusive to their profile only. Looking at it from an end user's point of view, VB is more end user friendly when it comes to personal albums. It keeps all the user's albums in their profile with good available permissions and the ability to manage their albums all right there.

I would suggest that the handling of end user's personal albums be handled differently than global albums. Similar to that of VB's (it's not copying...it's just as similar to that of other platforms as well!). Personal albums should be utilized inside the profiles for their personal benefit and to showcase to their friends they've added. So maybe the member albums shouldn't be so prominant (admin option) in the gallery. I'd rather not have them showcased in the gallery at all, but rather only available inside the profiles. Others would disagree (admin option!).

Obviously, we can see gallery content in our profiles already. But, I don't think it's on the same level as what is being requested here.

This has been suggested in the past by numerous people, and i'm sure if implimented would make alot of people (myself included) happy. I'd be one of the first to buy a new license. It doesn't seem like too much of a complex thing to add, and would be completely up to the community administrator to enable it or not.

There is private albums that covers this area.

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[quote name='ZakRhyno' timestamp='1341397168']
There is private albums that covers this area.


That's not what i'm asking for. I'm asking specifically for personal photo albums that are managed by the user and only viewable through the users profile (Not in the main global gallery). They would be two completely different systems when it comes down to it. Basically the exact same as vBulletin. There is a huge difference between the two concepts.

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[quote name='bfarber' timestamp='1341321121']
You can view a user's albums in their profile already - why would the albums need to be restricted to only showing from the profile?


Because not everyone wants to share their personal photos to the entire community (easily seen in the gallery/latest uploaded images in hooks & block feeds/etc), but still wants to showcase them in their profiles for only their family/friends to see. VB handles this well, but lacks a true gallery. IPB has a true gallery, but lacks the personalization of sharing/managing photos inside the profiles.

More details: http://community.invisionpower.com/topic/361759-invisionpower-staff-please-consider-this/#entry2261272

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[quote name='CallieJo' timestamp='1341474515']

Because not everyone wants to share their personal photos to the entire community (easily seen in the gallery/latest uploaded images in hooks & block feeds/etc), but still wants to showcase them in their profiles for only their family/friends to see. VB handles this well, but lacks a true gallery. IPB has a true gallery, but lacks the personalization of sharing/managing photos inside the profiles.

More details: http://community.inv...s/#entry2261272


There's no reason a user can't create private or friend only albums (in the gallery - I'm not clear why it matters whether they show there or not, so long as the permissions are honored). Their friends and family can access them from the user's profile if that's what is easiest for them, or they can access them from the Gallery if they prefer. At the end of the day though, the albums would only show to the user (for private albums) or to their friends (friend-only albums).

Essentially, everything requested is already there - you're just asking that they don't *also* show in the Gallery, and I'm not sure why that specifically matters.

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[quote name='bfarber' timestamp='1341488189']
There's no reason a user can't create private or friend only albums (in the gallery - I'm not clear why it matters whether they show there or not, so long as the permissions are honored). Their friends and family can access them from the user's profile if that's what is easiest for them, or they can access them from the Gallery if they prefer. At the end of the day though, the albums would only show to the user (for private albums) or to their friends (friend-only albums).

Essentially, everything requested is already there - you're just asking that they don't *also* show in the Gallery, and I'm not sure why that specifically matters.


Ok, I see what you are saying. I think part of the problem for some of us is: [*]We're use to the way VB handles personal albums inside the profiles. [*]The gallery menu link is not prominant enough under "My Settings" and has been missed. Being at the top in the dark blue instead of on the side in the light blue menu. I didn't know it was there until I read another thread here @IPB showing it. I don't think any of my members have noticed it either. Stands the reason why they are confused like myself. [*]Some people expect to manage their personal albums from the profile when viewing their photos. I see this is possible in the "My Settings" gallery link that I missed.
So, yes, everything is there as suggested. It's just handled differently. The only suggestion I could give now would be to move the gallery and downloads menu links to the light blue side menu of the "My Settings" area so people will notice it better.

Thanks for helping explain things. Have a splendid day.





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[quote name='bfarber' timestamp='1341488189']
There's no reason a user can't create private or friend only albums (in the gallery - I'm not clear why it matters whether they show there or not, so long as the permissions are honored). Their friends and family can access them from the user's profile if that's what is easiest for them, or they can access them from the Gallery if they prefer. At the end of the day though, the albums would only show to the user (for private albums) or to their friends (friend-only albums).

Essentially, everything requested is already there - you're just asking that they don't *also* show in the Gallery, and I'm not sure why that specifically matters.


We're not just talking about private/contacts only albums, but the entire photo album system in general. I think you're missing the entire point that i've been trying to explain. Some people just want personal albums for their profiles, not related to the gallery. For example you could enable personal photo album, and anyone (who's registered or otherwise) can view the photos but only in the user's profile, not in the gallery at all. This isn't a concept that just VB uses, but alot of other forums, myspace, facebook, and most social media sites in general.

It would be completely separate from the gallery, unless there was a user option to display their photos in the gallery. It really is a basic concept and would be up to the admin to enable it or not.

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Topper you should understand that you stated what you wanted to say. IPB usually don't follow others companies on how they do things they try to do it in there own way usually. For what your asking I don't think the current system will allow that to happen as IP.Gallery is a module that fits in to IPB Core, also they have to make a whole new system I think there just going to be focusing on the main application which is gallery. Maybe a mod can do this. Also you should post in the feedback forums area and not the blog post for suggests.

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[quote name='ZakRhyno' timestamp='1341529213']
Topper you should understand that you stated what you wanted to say. IPB usually don't follow others companies on how they do things they try to do it in there own way usually. For what your asking I don't think the current system will allow that to happen as IP.Gallery is a module that fits in to IPB Core, also they have to make a whole new system I think there just going to be focusing on the main application which is gallery. Maybe a mod can do this. Also you should post in the feedback forums area and not the blog post for suggests.


This isn't really something that would be "following other companies".. photo albums are a basic feature in most if not all social websites, it's no more "following other companies" than enabling signatures, avatars, forum sections, and profiles . IPB is based around a forum, and for most people is used as a social website. This would be a significant feature to add. Most IPB mods brush off any suggestions related to this and act as if the Gallery is more than perfect for these needs but seem ignorant to the entire concept of profile albums. I'd like to start up my own topic but it seems that most "suggestion" topics go unheard .. especially if the IPB mods don't understand the significance of the proposed feature.

But yes, i'll shut up now and make a separate topic anyways.

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[quote name='Havana Brown' timestamp='1341535146']
Or...you know...the concept itself is the problem.


Yeah, must be why nearly every single social media site has it.

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[quote name='topper.' timestamp='1341529794']
This isn't really something that would be "following other companies".. photo albums are a basic feature in most if not all social websites, it's no more "following other companies" than enabling signatures, avatars, forum sections, and profiles . IPB is based around a forum, and for most people is used as a social website. This would be a significant feature to add. Most IPB mods brush off any suggestions related to this and act as if the Gallery is more than perfect for these needs but seem ignorant to the entire concept of profile albums. I'd like to start up my own topic but it seems that most "suggestion" topics go unheard .. especially if the IPB mods don't understand the significance of the proposed feature.

But yes, i'll shut up now and make a separate topic anyways.


I've just given up, myself. I understand what is being said (accepted it for the most part...at least today) and how they view our suggestions as already included even though it's not the same entirely. But, I don't think people understand how important the end-users experience could and should be or just don't see what we see because it does not affect their communities like it does our's.

It's not a matter of copying. These suggestions have been made for years on many different platforms long before MS, FB, Twit, etc. It's not something new to copy that we are still suggesting years later. I get so tired of people thinking that every suggestion is a means to copy something else. When, infact, many suggestions are repeated suggestions from many platforms over many years prior to the now known big social networks. If anything, those social networks have copied many of our own suggestions made over the years...and then some, of coarse.

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[quote name='CallieJo' timestamp='1341540801']
I've just given up, myself. I understand what is being said (accepted it for the most part...at least today) and how they view our suggestions as already included even though it's not the same entirely. But, I don't think people understand how important the end-users experience could and should be or just don't see what we see because it does not affect their communities like it does our's.

It's not a matter of copying. These suggestions have been made for years on many different platforms long before MS, FB, Twit, etc. It's not something new to copy that we are still suggesting years later. I get so tired of people thinking that every suggestion is a means to copy something else. When, infact, many suggestions are repeated suggestions from many platforms over many years prior to the now known big social networks. If anything, those social networks have copied many of our own suggestions made over the years...and then some, of coarse.


Yeah, it's unfortunate. Maybe if more suggestions and input was taken seriously by actual customers they'd be a bit more popular. For people like me who want a mix of a social media and discussion forum, this is a small but vital feature. Unfortunately it's been brushed off by IPB mods who keep pointing to the same old features that are flawed in that sense. Anyways, I started a new topic: http://community.inv...l-photo-albums/

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[quote name='Topper-' timestamp='1341544768']
Yeah, it's unfortunate. Maybe if more suggestions and input was taken seriously by actual customers they'd be a bit more popular. For people like me who want a mix of a social media and discussion forum, this is a small but vital feature. Unfortunately it's been brushed off by IPB mods who keep pointing to the same old features that are flawed in that sense. Anyways, I started a new topic: http://community.inv...l-photo-albums/


They do listen to suggestions and read them. But they don't always act on them.

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I don't care much for comments (that is what the board is for) and I don't care much for changes to the index page. What I would like to see:
[*]The ability to be a private youtube for my community, where I can upload a file and only be visible via/through the community. As of now I am doing that with vimeo. I have the bandwidth and I am not using it, so having that option is ok. [*]Every single img tag posted on the forums, every single image on the upload directory should be there in the gallery (avatars and stuff), same with every media file uploaded in whatever section of the forums. The gallery should act as a reference or index to the media posted on the forums. That way when you want to find some video that was posted 3 months ago, it's a lot easier to find. If one were to comment it could take you to where that video was originally posted. [*]Forum embedding. Honestly, the forum needs to be able to embed media uploaded to the gallery just like it embeds youtube or vimeo.
As communities and the amounts of posts go large, its harder for users to search for a single video or picture. Having one centralized location for everything similar on the forums is awesome.

Nobody uses the gallery to post a picture just because, they do it to post media from an event or something for easier search.

Saludos,





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