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IP.Nexus

Recent advances in technology coupled with a tremendous increase in online awareness have had a profound effect on the growth of online communities. To better serve both present and future customers and in the interest of furthering our position as a leader in online community development, we are pleased to announce that we will immediately increase and refocus all development resources to the enhancement and expansion of our community offerings.

While we will evaluate the position of IP.Nexus in the marketplace at a later date, we recognize that the core of IPS is our community product and solution line and as such, our priority lies with the continued growth and enhancement of that very core. We will be allowing the current beta of IP.Nexus to expire on July 31 and will revisit our content management and business services plans after our upcoming releases of our community software products including IP.Board, IP.Gallery, IP.Blog, and IP.Downloads.

In coming weeks and months, please expect significant improvements to our existing community line as well as new components which compliment existing products. We're very excited about what the future holds and are confident that you will be equally pleased with the increased quality and speed at which we will be able to deliver new products and services.

Thank you all for your continued support and stay tuned for further updates!

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I'm slightly confused here, you're suspending IP.Nexus development until a later date? It also sounds like you are considering dropping the IP.Nexus product due to market changes?

Just my two cents, but that would be a terrible business decision to reverse course on IP.Nexus, especially after the years of resources invested into the product. I do agree that IPS is a community centric company, and that your community offerings are the heartbeat of the business, but IP.Nexus, even in it's current iteration, would be a good way to split your market and grow.

That aside, more development resources on IPB3 definitely isn't a bad thing, it's shaping up to be an exciting release :)

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I agree with Adam, this is a terrible business decision in my opinion and I'm sure many others would agree. It doesn't say much for IPS' as a software company that after 4 years of development they still can't release the actual product. Not that I was ever going to use Nexus, I'm glad more attention is to be given to IPB.

Vaporware is a term that springs to mind.

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Well, perhaps this is a good thing. The core forums software is still lacking key features to stay competitive. I hope more resources are spent on the forums. BTW, I love the latest Blog release! If that's a sign of things to come then I'm all for it.

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Congratulations on making a difficult decision. Certainly, it's better to have a great product than several mediocre products. Staying true to your core is a critical part of ongoing business success and I think that focusing efforts on making IPB better is a great thing to do -- it is a great product. Personally, I was interested in IP.Nexus -- I look forward to possibly seeing it, someday :)

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Nexus and IPB are worlds apart geared entirely towards different groups, I agree that the community software is the strong point and mostly everybody can afford it and it should be kept that way. Nexus, whatever not concerned about it not gonna talk about it.

Sounds great the community projects are going to be ramped up, and new things being released its great :) Just remember quality over quantity when squeezing things into a release, and if you build it they will come :P

...and keep the prices reasonable please

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Not a shot, but just a little constructive criticism. Is it really a change in the market that affects this, or the number of developers you have? I know that Matt was always the point man on this project, and certainly the arrival of a baby can't have helped the amount of time he can devote to its development.

Yet, I was under the impression that people like Brandon was hired to help developers such as Matt focus more on things like Nexus. As far as I can tell, there are three developers right now, so I can see if the loss of time about to be committed from one has hurt development of Nexus.

I don't know, I still think there's a place for a good CMS in the marketplace, and I think Nexus was in position to do very well.

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http://blog.mattmecham.com/2007/09/03/the-...is-almost-over/

Quite disappointed by this, to say the least. I was actually one of those people who waited a very long time for this, because I really believed a completely IPS solution would be preferable to building something out of different parts. Oh well. You lost a lot of faith I had in you with this move.

[edit] Is this for IP.D as well then?

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To be honest i didn't want to but i'm gonna have to rant. This is such bad customer services by IPS. For months i have noticed a HUGE drop from nexus and my repeated posts outlining this were pushed aside with messages of no it hasn't been abandoned and we're just very busy getting it ready to go. Obviously there were blue faced lies, no thats not extreme because theres no other word for it. I don't see IPS's business sense around this either. They already have a good competitive product which they are updating that for 90% will generate no extra income. Why? because people already own licences so no new income will be generated from those customers. Sure you might bring a few new people in but this is nothing compared to releasing a entirely new product.

People WANT ipb 3.0 but they don't NEED it. IP.Nexus was meant to be a business solution for businesses that NEEDED this solution and to be honest IPS has completely failed them. I've been a loyal IPS customer for many years but this decision has really shook my confidence in the organisation. You'll realise that in the long run this will be a large lost of revenue and customers not to mention my company for starters as we'll be looking for another solution now.

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I have used IPS software for almost 4 years, now it's still mainly a bbs with 3 official plugins. My original thoughts of purchasing IPS software was to bet IPS would make a web system based on a real core within a few years, though there wasn't one released yet in the past 4 years, but some simular things invented by Google in Google App.

I wish I can live to the day when IPS can release products faster. What? ImPoSsible?

Edit:
Using the nexus as a core of everything: board, blog, gallery, download, shop, article, etc. is one of my suggestions.
Another suggestion is making all things based on sitemaps 0.9, making the customers' sites could be embodied by the searching engine as much as possible.
Credits system(point system) is a boost function which has the same position as money in the real society could make the customers' sites held their customers as much as possible.

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By using IPS software for 4 years, I lost chances against my rivals on website functions, though I was ahead of them at the beginning. What are they using now? They use Discuz! with a lot of official components. All things in Discuz! are FREE for noncomercial use. Their products price for the commercial use is even much higher than IPS. Fortunately to IPS, it doesn't have english version yet, or we could say they don't care the english market yet. If IPS developes in such a low speed, goto Discuz! and you will learn more from it. http://www.discuz.com. I tried to protect my investment on purchasing IPS software, IPS shouldn't let us down. Four years, OMG!

Searh on Google,

7,610,000 results on searching 'Powered by Discuz'
2,030,000 results on searching 'Powered by Invision'
987,000 results on searching 'Powered By IP.Board'


478,000,000 results on searching 'Discuz'
60,900,000 results on searching 'Invision'

While 6 years ago, Discuz was times lower than IPS.

So, Wake Up! IPS! You might still be the forum leader in the english world, but in the whole world, someone has done better.

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[quote name='ysun' date='Jun 20 2008, 08:29 AM']By using IPS software for 4 years, I lost chances against my rivals on website functions, though I was ahead of them at the beginning. What are they using now? They use Discuz! with a lot of official components. All things in Discuz! are FREE for noncomercial use. Their products price for the commercial use is even much higher than IPS. Fortunately to IPS, it doesn't have english version yet, or we could say they don't care the english market yet. If IPS developes in such a low speed, goto Discuz! and you will learn more from it. http://www.discuz.com. I tried to protect my investment on purchasing IPS software, IPS shouldn't let us down. Four years, OMG!

Searh on Google,

7,610,000 results on searching 'Powered by Discuz'
2,030,000 results on searching 'Powered by Invision'
987,000 results on searching 'Powered By IP.Board'


478,000,000 results on searching 'Discuz'
60,900,000 results on searching 'Invision'

While 6 years ago, Discuz was times lower than IPS.

So, Wake Up! IPS! You might still be the forum leader in the english world, but in the whole world, someone has done better.

Not really sure why this comment was added to a post regarding IP.Nexus...

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[quote name='Keith J. Kacin' date='Jun 20 2008, 09:57 PM']Not really sure why this comment was added to a post regarding IP.Nexus...
Everything are connected, 4 years ago, IPB and Discuz were both on my list and I chose IPS...

Only comparison can make things better. Of course, it's my personal opinion.

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:) I want to commend you on such a wise choice as it is a great idea to work towards improvement on existing products in which customers are already paying for with high expectations of future upgrades rather than to put your existing community suite customers on hold for a new product that has no pre-existing customers at this time. Thank you so much, and all of us at IBSkin are anxiously and patiently awaiting future updates on the progress of the upcoming new versions of the IP Community Suite Products.

:D Sherri

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Thats what I said the other day :P Its better to put hold on a product which currently generates no income, and work on products that do earn them money. Seeing no one has actually bought Nexus at this stage, it doesn't affect IPS when it is released as such, whereas holding of on IP.Board3 would, because they have the competition actively updating their products.

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[quote name='Alεx' date='Jun 21 2008, 09:09 AM']Thats what I said the other day :P Its better to put hold on a product which currently generates no income, and work on products that do earn them money. Seeing no one has actually bought Nexus at this stage, it doesn't affect IPS when it is released as such, whereas holding of on IP.Board3 would, because they have the competition actively updating their products.
I wasn't even aware that one could buy IP.Nexus... :whistle:

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It is somewhat of a disappointment to hear that development has been postponed or possibly cancelled. Having followed Nexus since its early development, it was exciting to see that the product was finally progressing forward despite previous delays, especially when staff actually gave an estimated release period (understandably rare, and therefore all the more significant).

There are many people who have been waiting for this product for a long time, perhaps longer than they should have, but were happy to wait knowing that the wait would be worth it. Having installed a few of the betas myself, I honestly have to say that it is exceptional software and it had the potential to be the best billing system for web hosts on the market. Very frustrating to see an almost complete product killed so close to release.

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I was never really interested in IP.Nexus honestly. There are a lot of other products like it already established out there.

Whereas IPS is one of the top forum software companies. So I'm SUPER excited to see the development is going full speed ahead on IPB 3.0! Keep up the good work!

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A pure board or a bbs software will be less important in the future.

In my opinion, the original thoughts on Nexus of IPS is a correct way, making a core and develope other things arround the core. If a wrong core was selected, big wrong results will appear in the end.

Making a board/bbs as a core is a huge mistake. IPS can sell the board with nexus, the nexus is the core. Other applications are developed around it, that will be more like a web system. If only selling a board, no matter how good it was made, it's still just a board.

ps: my suggestions and complains in the above posts are to the software, not to the ppl in IPS, ppl are good ppl, just the software is not good enough today.

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[quote name='maccrazy' date='Jun 22 2008, 03:57 AM']It is somewhat of a disappointment to hear that development has been postponed or possibly cancelled. Having followed Nexus since its early development, it was exciting to see that the product was finally progressing forward despite previous delays, especially when staff actually gave an estimated release period (understandably rare, and therefore all the more significant).

There are many people who have been waiting for this product for a long time, perhaps longer than they should have, but were happy to wait knowing that the wait would be worth it. Having installed a few of the betas myself, I honestly have to say that it is exceptional software and it had the potential to be the best billing system for web hosts on the market. Very frustrating to see an almost complete product killed so close to release.
Exactly, I'm very disapointed.

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