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Test drive Invision Community 4.4 now!

Do you want to take our latest release for a test drive?

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You already are!

We've upgraded our own community for wider testing.

A big focus has been on page speed, so you will notice that our community is significantly faster that it was on 4.3

If you need a recap of what was added, take a look at our product updates blog which takes you through the highlights.

As this is a pre-beta release, expect some funkiness as we scurry around and tidy up our custom theme wrapper and other areas as we spot them.

If you you find a bug, we'd love for you to report it with as much detail as you can muster in the bug report area.

We'd love to know what you think, let us know below.

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On ‎1‎/‎9‎/‎2019 at 10:01 PM, evandixon said:

Lazy loading seems like a neat idea, but after scrolling through this thread, it distracts from the normal experience of scrolling down a webpage. I reloaded and hit F12 to watched the network traffic on that page. It didn't seem to matter how long I sat at the top of the page; the images didn't load until I scrolled down. Is it possible to trigger the image loads before the user scrolls down? If a user spends a lot of time reading the first post, the browser could be using that time to download the images that will be needed when scrolling down.

Another thing that results from the lazy loading is that images just pop into place, changing the vertical page size. Is it possible to save some sort of size information, so that the initial page load reserves the visible area of the image before loading the real image*? This might not be needed if my first suggestion is implemented, since this is how images already work most places on the internet.

* The first image in this blog post implies that might already be intended. If it is, then it's not working for me.

That's the one feature I was worried about. I don't like lazy loading at all on other sites.

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3 hours ago, Midnight Modding said:

That's the one feature I was worried about. I don't like lazy loading at all on other sites.

I love lazy loading.  I plan on rolling around in the pile of cash that Im going to be saving from not having excess bandwidth used on thousands of images that are loaded but never seen.  

Excuse me while I go burn my Amazon S3 and Cloudfront billing statements.  

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6 hours ago, Joel R said:

I love lazy loading.  I plan on rolling around in the pile of cash that Im going to be saving from not having excess bandwidth used on thousands of images that are loaded but never seen.  

Excuse me while I go burn my Amazon S3 and Cloudfront billing statements.  

I would only like lazy loading if it didn't distract from viewing the site. If not done properly, like what I've seen on this site so far (looking forward to trying the fix), images telegraph themselves as they pop in, making the user notice the lazy loading rather than the content on the page.

I do see your point about bandwidth usage though. That's one of the reasons why I haven't moved my site to the cloud: the bandwidth usage costs more than all the other resources combined. For now, I stick to my dedicated server that doesn't charge for bandwidth usage while simultaneously providing 25x the speed I actually need.

How did we get here, bandwidth potentially costing hundreds more per month than a physical server? I blame ISPs, but the root cause is probably capitalism.

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True on the bandwidth thing. I solely use a pc, myself, though, so doesn't affect me like it would if someone is using devices that run up data plans.

Main issue I have with it is that it becomes distracting, also. When I've been on sites using it, it seemed to have more hiccups than if the page had just been loaded at once, too.

I haven't checked out how it's behaving on this site, yet. edit: eh, actually, I guess it did it on this page, as I scrolled up and that image just appeared abruptly. it does get a bit distracting, bt I doubt it would flat out bother me. Personally, I wish it would load the actual images/objects up to a certain length of page and then start lazy loading (if that's even possible... I have no idea).

Now, if there would be a way to load the image when you get "close" to where it is located, where it's already loaded once you arrive at it, that would be great.

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this page looks like the Internet of 2000)))

do u realy allow this gif-faeces whithout modern gif player on your site? third-party content server normally for you?

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15 minutes ago, Saurabh Jain said:

excited -

Couple of questions -  how much impact will it leave on third party apps ?

Will they be broken?

That's depending on the app;)

While my initial testing I haven't noticed anything really concerning for members! The 3rd party developer environments will of course be broken, because we made several BC breaking changes to the code, which will result in php warnings, but they shouldn't be noticeable in live environments.

We've also prepared a topic with all important  4.3 => 4.4. changes for the contributors, so that they're hopefully able to port their code faster. The same was done for 4.3 => 4.4 theme changes 

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8 hours ago, Derzhis said:

this page looks like the Internet of 2000)))

do u realy allow this gif-faeces whithout modern gif player on your site? third-party content server normally for you?

What's a modern gif player?

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On 1/17/2019 at 2:38 AM, Derzhis said:

this page looks like the Internet of 2000)))

do u realy allow this gif-faeces whithout modern gif player on your site? third-party content server normally for you?

This is the kind of comment I don't understand.

Am I just not so finely tuned to see what the great abomination is?   The alternatives that people point to for 'modern' ..... I just don't get it.

Yet I show these same people the mobile site and tell them it's an app, and suddenly they like it.  So I really feel like calling bs on this kind of criticism without a better explanation.

 

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7 hours ago, socceronly said:

This is the kind of comment I don't understand.

Am I just not so finely tuned to see what the great abomination is?   The alternatives that people point to for 'modern' ..... I just don't get it.

I suspect what he / she would like is something like the gif player you see on sites like https://gfycat.com/  - so you can pause / restart / send a link / play full-screen, etc. 

 

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On 1/11/2019 at 10:56 PM, jair101 said:

I hate the gif thing, I really do. Call me old with my 36 years, I don't care. I am definitely not enabling this on my community and I do hope the gif fest thats been here for the last few days will eventually be subdued. 

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9 hours ago, rgf100 said:

I suspect what he / she would like is something like the gif player you see on sites like https://gfycat.com/  - so you can pause / restart / send a link / play full-screen, etc. 

 

Well I was more referring to the 2000's  part of the comment.    That all sites should confirm to the latest design trend. 

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