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As i wanted to do few changes to my site and i've talked with the app''s devs, everyone was saying that it's impossible without hooks, which v5 is missing. I don't know what are those hooks (looks like its easier to build flexible site and apps with hooks), so i need to know, is that something that will be added back or v5 will continue without them?

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These aren't something that would be added back. It would be interesting to know what you are trying to achieve. Im not a developer myself, but I know when some things have been mentioned here previously, there have been different ways to achieve the same things

You can read more about what's new here

https://invisioncommunity.com/developers/devblog/blog/introducing-invision-community-5s-development-tools-r7/

Then there are many more blogs covering individual areas

https://invisioncommunity.com/developers/devblog/

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I see, one of the things that i wanted are to seperate prefix and tags as i was asked in previous post. I do remember prefix app back in v4 too. One of the app's devs told me it's impossible without hooks. I belive the things i want are all hooks related, but if they won't be added back, nothing i can do about my wishes. :)

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I cant see any reason someone wouldnt be able to make a completely new prefix app, to be honest. Changing what we have, may be what they have issues with

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The hooks made it much easier for programmers to work, so after removing them, the work for them would be difficult,

I advise you to look for an active developer who will be able to create the app you need.

The reason for removing the hooks is that they were used incorrectly in version 4, so they should have been removed, but any application can be created without them👌

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I've asked 2 popular app's devs here, they told me it's not possible to do what i need. Looks like i will need to pass on that for that time.

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I'm sure Adriano is one of them😁

Try contacting @onlyME, it's an active developer.

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2 minutes ago, EliasM said:

I'm sure Adriano is one of them😁

Try contacting @onlyME, it's an active developer.

Yes, i've asked Adriano and teraByte, they told me something IF new extension to manipulate the tags data is added, could be possible. I didn't ask onlyME, as he told me right now he is busy to take requests as i've asked him about other things.

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46 minutes ago, EliasM said:

I'm sure Adriano is one of them😁

Btw, this is WRONG:

2 hours ago, EliasM said:

but any application can be created without them

I can name dozens of apps that can’t be ported to IPS5, not to mention a lot of features that my apps have lost, but YOU are the guy who knows, not Terabyte, for example.

The best definition of IPS5 you will ever hear is what Matt said: "You can do a lot, but you can't do everything".

It's simple like that.

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7 hours ago, Владислав Цветков said:

I see, one of the things that i wanted are to seperate prefix and tags as i was asked in previous post. I do remember prefix app back in v4 too. One of the app's devs told me it's impossible without hooks. I belive the things i want are all hooks related, but if they won't be added back, nothing i can do about my wishes. :)

What exactly is impossible? This should be quite easy with the current listeners and extensions.

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4 minutes ago, Daniel F said:

What exactly is impossible? This should be quite easy with the current listeners and extensions.

To have seperated tags for Download/Article section. Not global tags, as i want my forum topics to have certain tags to chose from, as my Download submits, not big list of mix tags. That's one for example.

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5 hours ago, Adriano Faria said:

I can name dozens of apps that can’t be ported to IPS5, not to mention a lot of features that my apps have lost, but YOU are the guy who knows, not Terabyte, for example.

By the way, I do not underestimate you, you are the most active programmer and you have the largest amount of applications,

But these words of mine because of the previous one happened before, on this example:

https://invisioncommunity.com/forums/topic/481263-feedback-reaction-in-private-messages/#findComment-2988211

But it was created easily with bigger features

https://ipsappzone.com/index.php?app=downloads&module=downloads&controller=view&id=48

So you may not only have the time or effort required, but I'm sure anything is possible with v5💪😅

I said in that post:

No way. Absolutely not. I don’t need and don’t like to reinvent the wheel.

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17 minutes ago, EliasM said:

But it was created easily with bigger features

Easily reinventing the wheel and practically copying a lot of stuff from the core (to create a model and a controller) to simulate it. This IS reinventing the wheel. If someone is willing to do this, great. I don't.

I just ask to stop saying things that you don't know, or at least stop mentioning my name. I really don't care what you think about me. Couldn't care less.

21 minutes ago, EliasM said:

So you may not only have the time or effort required, but I'm sure anything is possible with v5💪😅

Wrong AGAIN!

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20 hours ago, EliasM said:

but any application can be created without them

17 hours ago, Adriano Faria said:

Btw, this is WRONG:

17 hours ago, Adriano Faria said:

I can name dozens of apps that can’t be ported to IPS5, not to mention a lot of features that my apps have lost, but YOU are the guy who knows, not Terabyte, for example.

The best definition of IPS5 you will ever hear is what Matt said: "You can do a lot, but you can't do everything".

11 hours ago, EliasM said:

So you may not only have the time or effort required, but I'm sure anything is possible with v5💪😅

11 hours ago, Adriano Faria said:

Wrong AGAIN!

Please could we stop having a debate in someone else's topic. I'm sure you wouldn't be happy if someone took over your own topic :)

To clarify to both, you can indeed do most things, but yes, there are some things that can't be done.

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