Not possible to translate properly as the same string is used in both applications.

Edited February 17, 20204 yr by Sonya*

Thanks, I've logged a bug report to have this looked into.

@bfarber, another strings that System and Pages "share":

• r__menu_manage
• r__menu_edit
• r__menu_add
• r__menu_delete

Those language strings aren't defined in Pages as far as I can tell.

1 hour ago, bfarber said:

Those language strings aren't defined in Pages as far as I can tell.

They are not used, that's right, but they are there and prevent saving the translated string. This is a fresh install:

This is another example:

Probably you can run a SQL to get those double keys to eliminate them? 🙄

And another one:

Edited March 10, 20204 yr by Sonya*
Added another occurrence

If I open applications/cms/data/lang.xml, there are no instances of "r__menu" anywhere. I am unsure how you have those in your database, perhaps this was an issue in a much older version and it has since been corrected, I can't be certain. I would recommend you simply clean them up in your own database if they're present and posing an issue.

I cannot find "read_more_about" or "task__publish" in Blog. Again, those may be older language string entries we've already cleaned up but didn't outright delete. I would recommend cleaning them up yourself in your own database if they're posing an issue.

(It is also possible there are changes in 4.5 that explain the difference, I am checking our working release and not 4.4.10).

It would be nice to have some tools do show us outdated phrases.... I also have some old ones because i translate since 4.0 alpha....

There are no issues, but some cleanup should be good for all of us 🙂

10 minutes ago, TheSonic said:

It would be nice to have some tools do show us outdated phrases

A tool to show new lang bits at every new version would be handy too.

4 hours ago, TheSonic said:

It would be nice to have some tools do show us outdated phrases.... I also have some old ones because i translate since 4.0 alpha....

There are no issues, but some cleanup should be good for all of us 🙂

+1 , this is a pain for non English board . language need to be updated some how when update board , same with plugins . should be translatable same as apps

some cleanup and tools we sure need .... 

19 hours ago, bfarber said:

I cannot find "read_more_about" or "task__publish" in Blog. Again, those may be older language string entries we've already cleaned up but didn't outright delete. I would recommend cleaning them up yourself in your own database if they're posing an issue.

I have deleted the strings with SQL from MY installations. But this is definitely something that IPS has caused in the previous versions. I have checked some older installations (also those I have not setup or customized but have an admin access to), they all have these strings defined. 😏