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Having been told this is now working as intended in 4.4.4 I just wanted to give some feedback on the new notification system. It's bizarre, bonkers and a backwards step just like when the popup search menu was refreshed and removed search within this topic on mobile. 

If I receive any notification for a reaction, quote, mention even automatic moderation I must now fully read the topic before it marks as read, and if I receive further notifications for other posts in the same topic, previously read notifications will revert to showing as unread.

For example.

I have a 10 page topic. 

I have only read 6 pages but receive a reaction for a post on page 3. 

On opening the notification and seeing Bob gave me a like, I navigate back to the homepage to view something else. The notification for the reaction is still showing as unread. The only way to dismiss this notification would be to read the remaining 4 pages of the topic.

Even if I do this then make a post on page 10 which I receive a notification of a reaction for later, the earlier notification on page 3 will show as being unread again until I am fully caught up with the topic.

Yes I can understand opening the notification menu marked all notifications as read wasn't great, but this is far worse now and it's confusing my members. I even put a notice up to say notifications are broken, we are aware bare with us whilst we fix because I was getting so many messages. I now have to go back and say guess what, this is working fine.

I'm sorry IPS, you're great and everything you really are, but this, this is terrible. 

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If I'm following a forum and a new topic is made, I get the notification "Member posted a topic in such and such Forum: Things"
Just clicking that link should be enough for the notification to become read. I shouldn't have to read the whole topic as this is just the notification that a new topic was made, so surely should work different to a normal topic link?

Edited by marklcfc

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I had to see it for myself on my site as it wasn't registering with me. So now if I read the full topic and the notification becomes read, if someone then later posts in it, that notification becomes unread again? Thats not good..

Edited by marklcfc

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Not sure if this is advisable but I have reverted the change listed in theme difference from 4.4.3 to 4.4.4 for notificationsAjax and appears to be working as it did before if anyone else is frustrated.

Edit: this only restores the old behaviour in the popup, when opening up the full notification page it's still the new wonky system

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FWIW I hope you guys can figure out a way to immediately mark as read once the individual notification has been clicked, and doesn't revert to showing as unread later. Having all notifications mark as read on open was/is a minor frustration. 

 

Edited by day_

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Reverting the theme change will do no harm. The notifications page itself actually hasn’t changed it has always been this way just you were less likely to notice it as most simply use the pop up.


We are discussing this change internally.

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3 minutes ago, Andy Millne said:

Reverting the theme change will do no harm. The notifications page itself actually hasn’t changed it has always been this way just you were less likely to notice it as most simply use the pop up.

 

We are discussing this change internally.

Thank you, I did make a change to the notificationsRow template for the main notification page on row 4 replacing

<li class='ipsDataItem {{if $notification['data']['unread']}}ipsDataItem_unread{{endif}} ipsClearfix'>

with

<li class='ipsDataItem {{if !$notification['notification']->read_time}}ipsDataItem_unread{{endif}} ipsClearfix'>

It works. But as you say it's not a page I or expect other members visit that often to notice

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On 6/8/2019 at 12:08 AM, day_ said:

Not sure if this is advisable but I have reverted the change listed in theme difference from 4.4.3 to 4.4.4 for notificationsAjax and appears to be working as it did before if anyone else is frustrated.

Edit: this only restores the old behaviour in the popup, when opening up the full notification page it's still the new wonky system

280156452_Screenshot2019-06-07at23_57_55.thumb.png.75bff52e8dc355a011935ee7b1ede326.png

Done this now as got a few complaints too

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Hi, one more here

Members ara confused with the "new system", which seems to be perfect for them prior 4.4.4

Maybe notification behaviour could be a parameter in the PCAdmin ?

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32 minutes ago, Cybero said:

which seems to be perfect for them prior 4.4.4

Let’s be honest it wasn’t “perfect”, notifications were better pre 4.4.4, but still had room for improvement. 

It would be nice for notifications not to be automatically marked as read just because you open up the notification pop up, and only marked as read when clicked on.

If they can figure that one without this having to load the last page, or reappearing, perfection will be achieved. 

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41 minutes ago, Milan Mlade said:

The update cost me 500$ in one day by the new email notifications. How can we solve this? 

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What you are describing is different from what is being discussed in this topic.

I am unaware of any issues sending email notifications that would explain a sudden jump in sending emails upon upgrading, but if you believe there's an issue I would encourage you to submit a ticket in your client area for official support.

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3 hours ago, jair101 said:

Kind bump as my users also started to immediately revolt once I upgraded to 4.4.4.

I'm sure we can find a non-dimissable banner to hold back the peasant horde.

Kidding! 

IPS is reviewing the feedback in this topic about notifications, so feel free to share your thoughts and concerns about 4.4's update on notifications. 

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Yeah, not a fan, I thought there was an issue with my install. I'll be doing the work around mentioned higher up in this thread. 

What was the actual aim of this change? Can't work it out.

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Clubbing of notification - i.e. if multiple members like same post - notification clubbing would be nice!  But half read and half unread notification is driving nuts to many users on our forums. Thank you

 

 

 

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