Joel R Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Charles said: I personally do not like dark mode. I actually find it harder to read. That's because you're a morning person. Real picture of @Charles at 5:00 AM watching the world wake up tonyv, wegorz23 and Sonya* 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfarber Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 14 hours ago, Joel R said: That's because you're a morning person. Real picture of @Charles at 5:00 AM watching the world wake up Charles and coffee do.not.mix. Joel R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesignzShop Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 There's a possibility some of you may have drank too much kool-aid here. @Charles is on to something!https://www.wired.com/story/do-you-need-dark-mode/ Joel R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joy Rex Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Chrome 78 has a "force dark mode" that uses color inversion - might be an option for those (depends on how well or not the inversion works with your forum theme). To enable it: chrome://flags/#enable-force-dark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David.. Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Joy Rex said: Chrome 78 has a "force dark mode" that uses color inversion - might be an option for those (depends on how well or not the inversion works with your forum theme). To enable it: chrome://flags/#enable-force-dark What the hell that works quite nice on IPS. Just header is not dark but everything else looks minty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opentype Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 That’s interesting! If I ever create dark-mode CSS, I will base it on what I see in Chrome. Works surprisingly well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David.. Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Also hoping IPS adds a toggle for dark & light mode. Or at least make it easier to switch between the two somehow. Maintaining multiple themes is not so great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Matt Posted October 24, 2019 Management Share Posted October 24, 2019 The only things I like dark are: - My code editor - My coffee - My memes Jim M, Joy Rex, Maxxius and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbered Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I prefer White for websites. But I totally agree that IPS must add default dark theme. There is the only reason for that - help theme developers for making their dark themes. Now if some not developer guy installs IPS and if he wants to create a dark mode the visual styling isn't enough to make it. If he changes all possible fields to the dark colors he still sees white areas. Just because their colors are hardcoded in the css files. In this case, there is no way of making perfect dark themes without CSS editing from the default theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David.. Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Matt said: The only things I like dark are: - My code editor - My coffee - My memes - My websites How can you want your code editor dark but not the websites you read? wegorz23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklcfc Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) On 10/22/2019 at 9:36 PM, Charles said: I personally do not like dark mode. I actually find it harder to read. 6 hours ago, Matt said: The only things I like dark are: - My code editor - My coffee - My memes So we have IPS opinions but the fact is, night mode is a thing amongst popular social media sites now and phone devices. I had to create a night mode skin due to alot of requests lately but it could still be bettered, with an easy on/off switch for example. Edited October 24, 2019 by marklcfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opentype Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 The IPS app coming with 4.5 has a dark-mode option. Regarding the community suite, I would rather expect it for 5.x. It might also be worth to code it not as a full theme at all, but using the CSS declaration which are in development for this. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/prefers-color-scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Matt Posted October 24, 2019 Management Share Posted October 24, 2019 I only said what my personal preference was. It's been a long long time since we coded Ikon Power Community Suite 4 just for my own personal tastes. We realise dark mode is a thing and people seem to like it. As mentioned above, the app has a dark mode. Whether we can being dark mode as a theme option rather than a totally new theme is another matter. We will discuss it but as we have a gazillion things we want to do, it won't get massive priority. There's a bunch of good dark themes in the marketplace already. Ryan Ashbrook 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlago Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 And why not a men's theme and a default women's theme as well? Joel R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovereign Grace Singles Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Adlago said: And why not a men's theme and a default women's theme as well? Because those exhibiting Gender dysphoria will sue. Edited October 24, 2019 by Christforums Joel R and Adlago 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgin Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Matt said: I only said what my personal preference was. It's been a long long time since we coded Ikon Power Community Suite 4 just for my own personal tastes. We realise dark mode is a thing and people seem to like it. As mentioned above, the app has a dark mode. Whether we can being dark mode as a theme option rather than a totally new theme is another matter. We will discuss it but as we have a gazillion things we want to do, it won't get massive priority. There's a bunch of good dark themes in the marketplace already. I think rather than IPS doing a night theme, it would be better to add an admin option to designate a light theme and dark theme, and once that's completed, the front end displays a user option for "follow device dark mode setting". I think that approach is more than sufficient. I guess you'd also need to then have the core check for https://drafts.csswg.org/mediaqueries-5/#prefers-color-scheme and select the appropriate theme based on what the admin selects for each. That to me seems a better solution than IPS doing its own dark theme (maybe down the line you could, but what's missing from the suite is the ability to check for prefers-color-scheme and having it just work). Edit: Or I could just read the whole thread and see that @opentype who is much smarter than me already covered this. 🤦♂️ Edited October 24, 2019 by Morgin Joel R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David.. Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, Morgin said: the front end displays a user option for "follow device dark mode setting". I don't think websites have access to that. Unlike Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Ashbrook Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, David.. said: I don't think websites have access to that. Unlike Apps. It was mentioned before, but browsers are beginning to roll out CSS options for light / dark mode preferences. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/prefers-color-scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyv Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Dark mode is neither necessary nor desirable. Adlago and Millipede 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgin Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, tonyv said: Dark mode is neither necessary nor desirable. Nothing is really “necessary”. Objectively though, it’s an option for users that many enjoy having, so I think saying it’s not desirable is simply false. All major browsers and OSes now support native dark mode. There’s a reason (hint: has to do with being desirable.) For me, I use it at night if I’m in the rocking chair with my infant. I have an iPhone X so anything that uses true black is very dark which is perfect. I read a lot of reddit (which supports dark natively) because it’s not too bright for the room. Edited October 25, 2019 by Morgin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegorz23 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 On 10/22/2019 at 10:36 PM, Charles said: I personally do not like dark mode. I actually find it harder to read. Yeah, like many persons. But making forum/site is not only making it for our self right? 🙂 We have got 70 000 users, and many of them like it a lot. You can check our Dark Mode project:https://marvelapp.com/90h1hh6/screen/58141200 https://marvelapp.com/90h1hh6/screen/58155536 https://marvelapp.com/90h1hh6/screen/58155535 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegorz23 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 And of course you can enter our site and test it live: https://www.audiostereo.pl/ Just choose Style: Audiostereo Black from styles 😉 But still automatic option to switch it after dark from default one to Black will be great. Many ppl don't like Black ones at day, but loves it at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joy Rex Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 2 hours ago, wegorz23 said: Yeah, like many persons. But making forum/site is not only making it for our self right? 🙂 We have got 70 000 users, and many of them like it a lot. You can check our Dark Mode project:https://marvelapp.com/90h1hh6/screen/58141200 https://marvelapp.com/90h1hh6/screen/58155536 https://marvelapp.com/90h1hh6/screen/58155535 That's a nice way to implement dark mode - not pure black, but shades of dark grays so it's easier on the eyes. 2 hours ago, wegorz23 said: And of course you can enter our site and test it live: https://www.audiostereo.pl/ Just choose Style: Audiostereo Black from styles 😉 But still automatic option to switch it after dark from default one to Black will be great. Many ppl don't like Black ones at day, but loves it at night. An idea is to offer an "automatic" dark mode - look at the user's local time and switch the theme from light to dark depending on what time it is for them. wegorz23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegorz23 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 On 10/25/2019 at 5:03 PM, Joy Rex said: An idea is to offer an "automatic" dark mode - look at the user's local time and switch the theme from light to dark depending on what time it is for them. Exactly like that. We have our standard one (bright), and want to give users such an option like you said. Many users don't want/need dark mode at day, but after dark is very nice. Im one of them - when Im on our forum at the day its fine to use standard one, but option for automatic change will be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Man Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I don't know which is worse, the folks who don't grasp that dark mode is a form of accessibility and a necessity for many, or the haters who post the daftest comments. I learnt sometime ago with some surprise that a lot of people struggle with white text on black or dark background, it honestly never occurred to me. I was told by some an optician that as people get older, they often need brighter displays, televisions etc whereas I find they make me sneeze. Personally I like both white/black and black/white but certainly at night I find white backgrounds hurt my eyes, and I'm light sensitive anyway. Trying to read the bright white BBC News app at 3am with my iPad brightness at 0 is torture. When I see dark mode available as a choice, I enable it. TheWorldNewsMedia.org 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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