Frost_Bite Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 It would be great to add DKIM support for outgoing mail. This is implemented in the plugin for wordpress MyMail. This is a simple and ingenious solution. This will establish a IPB for more hosts, where there is no access to the mail server settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Perry Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Uhhhh... I don't think that would work under most cases, as you have to put your DKIM settings in as a TXT entry into DNS. And some people (like me) have their DNS hosted elsewhere than on my dedicated server (even though I do all my own MTA stuff on said server) which requires an additional layer of authentication to access. You would still have to create your DNS entries. DKIM is a server level aspect and honestly I personally wouldn't want my script (in this case IPS) doing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frost_Bite Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 I think that DKIM supports domain selectors in order to different applications can work with their own DKIM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim M Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 DKIM is assigned to the sending domain of the email. If you're sending via a third party such as Sparkpost or Mandrill (aka MailChimp) you would need to update your DNS record per their assignment. The following is tested via https://www.mail-tester.com/ using IPS and Sparkpost: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Perry Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 17 minutes ago, Frost_Bite said: I think that DKIM supports domain selectors in order to different applications can work with their own DKIM. For the DKIM to be valid, it has to be registered in the DNS as a TXT entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frost_Bite Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 About dns yes. But you have to configure any server like Sendmail that contained the keys. I suggest to do it on the side of the application, as it will be much easier for the forum administrators. You need experience much less than for the settings of the mail server. Mandrill asks for money for nothing and have blacklisted ips. Mail analytics can be embedded in an application, example in the first message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Perry Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 no, you configure the MTA to interface with (frequently) OpenDKIM on the server. And no, it won't be "easier" as you still have to configure your DNS TXT entry Not everyone uses SMTP for their interface to send mail with. Some of us actually use the PHP processor to hand it off. Setting up OpenDKIM with the MTA is one of the easier things to do. If you can't do it (and no, I don't even use cPanel, I do all mine at command line) then maybe one shouldn't be running a mail server. For those using SparkPost, Mandrill, etc I believe they have to be set there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Perry Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 no, you configure the MTA to interface with (frequently) OpenDKIM on the server. And no, it won't be "easier" as you still have to configure your DNS TXT entry Not everyone uses SMTP for their interface to send mail with. Some of us actually use the PHP processor to hand it off. Setting up OpenDKIM with the MTA is one of the easier things to do. If you can't do it (and no, I don't even use cPanel, I do all mine at command line) then maybe one shouldn't be running a mail server. For those using Mandril, SparkPost, etc. I believe they have to set it there as they are the one actually "delivering" the mail for your domain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frost_Bite Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 Access to cpanel or ispmanager or ssh may be missing. Everything must be done simply and via a browser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim M Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 7 minutes ago, Frost_Bite said: Access to cpanel or ispmanager or ssh may be missing. Everything must be done simply and via a browser. Asking your hosting provider for assistance is the way to go if you're limited on your options or do not know what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frost_Bite Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 Are you kidding me. In all my projects DKIM configured. Your method is outdated, convenient and ingenious solution in the first message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Woods Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, Frost_Bite said: Are you kidding me. In all my projects DKIM configured. Your method is outdated, convenient and ingenious solution in the first message. Good job on convincing them to add something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Perry Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Frost_Bite said: Access to cpanel or ispmanager or ssh may be missing. Everything must be done simply and via a browser. All that does is create the key for you - same thing that 3 simple lines from the command prompt does. EDIT: Actually, 7 lines if done individually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Perry Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Frost_Bite said: Access to cpanel or ispmanager or ssh may be missing. Everything must be done simply and via a browser. In that case, you don't have control (normal most likely if you are on something like a free hosting - which is crap for use with IPS). I don't know of ANY decent hosting provider that does not provide a panel of some type (shared) and if you have a VPS or dedicated server then you are going to have SSH access (unless you've screwed the pooch and messed it up). And cPanel already does DKIM configuration (as do most other panels). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frost_Bite Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 48 minutes ago, Simon Woods said: Good job on convincing them to add something. Here without any problems. Their decisions - their sales. I probably misunderstood the IPS, thought that a mass product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracy Perry Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Honesty there are many other things I'd rather see them invest their time in that something the replicates what most panels already do and is done by others from the command line on their server. Like, work on the calendar to get it so that you can have repeating day of week type events (like every 3rd Wednesday of a month). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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