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How do I get to the first post from the new stream?

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I don't like change, and I love change - all at the same time.  It took a while for me to accept (not the same as like) the Streams that we had, I still miss having more data available in the VNC.

Now with the new streams here on 4.1.9 I don't know how to go to the first post in a thread.  If I click the dot next to the post or if I click the post title, either way I go to the first unread post.  I really don't like that.  I often don't read a post at all.  Then if I see it pop up on a stream a few times I might click the title and read the whole thread.  Now I need to scroll up or navigate pages.

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See what the options are when 4.1.9 comes out.

The new state is because some people didn't like that the title went to the first post, and they found the dot too small or whatever to click on. So now there are 2 links that do the same thing - maybe IPS put an option in the ACP to dictate what the title link does? I don't see a per-user setting in my profile, so I don't think that has been done.

Edited by Nathan Explosion

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1 minute ago, Nathan Explosion said:

maybe IPS put an option in the ACP to dictate what the title link does?

I hope this is true, regardless, not thinking they would have added this option (they don't seem to add ACP options), I submitted it as a bug.

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Yes it's very awkward, I thought we were supposed to get admin defaults for where the title goes for all streams which members could override to set preference. Instead it's a compromise of in "Unread" streams title always goes to first unread, and in "Everything" streams, the unread link always goes to first post. Makes no sense since both are unread links. Very confusing to users. I hope they can give us more control as well as the users. There should be easy ways to get to first, unread, newest. Let admins set per stream. Let users set preference per stream. Just takes one dedicated "title action" filter. It needs to be reevaluated for ease and logic including the infamous dot.

Edited by chilihead

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Click on "replies" or "comment" that appears under the topic name/topic content. It will take you to the first message of the topic or blog post.

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13 hours ago, Morisato said:

Click on "replies" or "comment" that appears under the topic name/topic content. It will take you to the first message of the topic or blog post.

Hmm, this does not work for me.  I use the condensed view, I've tried clicking on anything clickable.  If I have not read a post, all I can ever seem to click on is the newest comment, I can't easily get to the very first post in a thread.

It seems this was a change (I posted a bug).  In my opinion, not a good change.  It did not add anything, it changed from what we had and it took away options.

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True. There is no way currently to get to the first post when there are comments already and it is worse in the condensed view than in the expanded view. 

I would still want to keep the current behavior, but just add a link to the first entry. For example there is already the string “a topic”, “an article” or whatever there below the main link. That could be a link to the first post. 

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Just now, chilihead said:

How? You sure you were in an Unread stream, not Everything?

I use the default stream here.  I right clicked on the title and said open in new tab, then right clicked on a circle and did the same.  I made sure it was a topic I had never read.  I had also marked the site as read earlier in the day.

The two links brought me to two different place in the thread.  One to the first post, one to the last (I had marked the site as read).

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2 minutes ago, Square Wheels said:

I use the default stream here.  I right clicked on the title and said open in new tab, then right clicked on a circle and did the same.  I made sure it was a topic I had never read.  I had also marked the site as read earlier in the day.

The two links brought me to two different place in the thread.  One to the first post, one to the last (I had marked the site as read).

It does seem they removed title going to first unread in Unread streams, but I don't think that's the fix. That was heavily suggested. They probably either overwrote it with an upgrade or are experimenting with it, I would think. Or there's a new setting for first unread?

Are there any staff that can clarify?

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17 minutes ago, chilihead said:

It does seem they removed title going to first unread in Unread streams, but I don't think that's the fix. That was heavily suggested. They probably either overwrote it with an upgrade or are experimenting with it, I would think. Or there's a new setting for first unread?

Are there any staff that can clarify?

We reverted the change we tested in 4.1.9 based on feedback. We'll make it a true user preference in the next release - it's too late to make that change in 4.1.9.

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Is there a version # planned for first unread the new way? And I'm hoping "true user preference" still means admins can set the default state, as I would want it on, thanks for any updates if possible.

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