UK-Varsh Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 There are many users I have come across that are complaining about using CKEditor and they much preferred using the old basic editor that was available to them in IPB3. What would be handy is to have the an option for the users to allow for them to switch between using the CKEditor or just having a standard textarea for typing in text. Or is there an option that I have missed completely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheddy Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 @UK-Varsh, the members on your community aren't the only ones. I'm receiving some backlash over it as well. I strongly urge IPS to reconsider the editors, or add some kind of option where IPS users/administrators can select what editors to use. Right now, the ckeditor is playing havok with the status update widget and I seriously hate the idea of allowing users to embed images and video into a status update. I'm still scratching my head over who at IPS thought THAT was EVER a good idea to begin with. Personally, I think it's the dumbest idea to ever grace IPS. My apologies if that sounds condescending but I seriously hope IPS makes some changes in regards to allowing us to select what editor to use through our own communities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomAle Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 +1 for textarea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Lindy Posted January 3, 2016 Management Share Posted January 3, 2016 You can't have a standard text area because the post is pre-formatted as it appears in the editor before it's submitted to the database. You can, however, customize the editor -- even strip it down if you prefer to the bare minimum. It is, however, required. Feel free to share your concerns about the editor and we're happy to address them appropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Explosion Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 @Lindy a useful option with ckeditor is the ability to use different config.js configuration files on various ckeditor instances, allowing someone to present a ckeditor instance on one page that could be stripped down to use only, for example, Bold/Italic buttons with all other plugins not included. Then on another page, present a full editor.....then on another page and so on. And it doesn't even have to be on different pages - 2 ckeditor instances on one page can have different config.js files This may be an option for those who want to strip down the editor that they see in the status update widget - strip out the plugins they don't want to see in there, strip it back to the basics. And then in the signature, strip out the functionality that does embedding for those who don't want people to embed external content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Admin CP > Customisation > Editor > Toolbars You can remove any button (even all of them if you're so inclined) by dragging and dropping them into the section below - or, click on any button to remove it from certain areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Explosion Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 11 minutes ago, Mark said: Admin CP > Customisation > Editor > Toolbars You can remove any button (even all of them if you're so inclined) by dragging and dropping them into the section below - or, click on any button to remove it from certain areas. In before everyone else - people know that, Mark. Problems: It affects all ckeditor instances - so if admin wants to have a basic stripped back editor in the status updates, and a full editor everywhere else, then it's either/or not both. You can remove all buttons. You can't remove all plugins - so if someone wants to remove the plugin that handles the auto-embedding then they can't (unless they get jiggy with the database or even rewrite the plugin to neuter what it does) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradl Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I struggle with people using statuses as (instead of) posts as it is. Adding in the various accoutrements of posting makes the tendency even worse. On the plus side breaking the ability to read multiple user' status+replies in one place by making everyone go off to profile status pages is doing some good work in discouraging status use. So there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikki Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 22 hours ago, Nathan Explosion said: It affects all ckeditor instances - so if admin wants to have a basic stripped back editor in the status updates, and a full editor everywhere else, then it's either/or not both. You can change where it shows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Explosion Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Correct - but that controls the display of a button. Show me how you can strip out a plugin that doesn't have a button - which would thus allow people to strip out things like ipsautolink which, if I'm not mistaken, handles the auto-embedding of content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Varsh Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 I don't think some of you quite understood what I meant. When I mean by a simple textarea, I mean where users can freely add in their text and not have anything auto formatted, it would be similar to using notepad. They would then use BBCode to format the entire post themselves instead of using the CKEditor. This would then have CKEditor disabled for those that don't want to use it and they can then use a basic box without any issues. It's using the CKEditor and its auto formatting that is causing issues so adding or removing items from the toolbar isn't going to do the slightest bit of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Explosion Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 1 minute ago, UK-Varsh said: I don't think some of you quite understood what I meant. When I mean by a simple textarea, I mean where users can freely add in their text and not have anything auto formatted, it would be similar to using notepad. They would then use BBCode to format the entire post themselves instead of using the CKEditor. This would then have CKEditor disabled for those that don't want to use it and they can then use a basic box without any issues. It's using the CKEditor and its auto formatting that is causing issues so adding or removing items from the toolbar isn't going to do the slightest bit of difference. The chances of it happening are nil, hence offering up alternatives to get some of that 'auto-formatting' functionality out of the existing editor in certain places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Varsh Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 Ugh, it's crazy to take out the option in the first place. I can understand why CKEditor is available as default, but removing a basic option that others require isn't good practice. If there are ways to get it as close to that as possible then that would be grand, but I assume that this would affect everyone rather than have it as an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim M Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 On 1/4/2016 at 7:17 AM, UK-Varsh said: I don't think some of you quite understood what I meant. When I mean by a simple textarea, I mean where users can freely add in their text and not have anything auto formatted, it would be similar to using notepad. They would then use BBCode to format the entire post themselves instead of using the CKEditor. This would then have CKEditor disabled for those that don't want to use it and they can then use a basic box without any issues. It's using the CKEditor and its auto formatting that is causing issues so adding or removing items from the toolbar isn't going to do the slightest bit of difference. If you so desire, BBCODE will still parse in CKEditor so it is possible to do this to an extent. Just images and some items will embed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudo Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 7 hours ago, Jim M said: If you so desire, BBCODE will still parse in CKEditor so it is possible to do this to an extent. Just images and some items will embed. Would that happen browser side though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim M Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 7 hours ago, ZeroHour said: Would that happen browser side though? Not sure what you mean by this question. Ex: [b]Text[/b] Rendered: Text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexsplosions Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I demand IPS return my preferred editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudo Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 2 hours ago, Jim M said: Not sure what you mean by this question. Ex: [b]Text[/b] Rendered: Text Aka it will be processed and converted when you hit submit before going from the client to the server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Lindy Posted January 8, 2016 Management Share Posted January 8, 2016 Per the request of the OP, we've cleaned this up and reopened for additional feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflash Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I think the new editor offers more functionality than the previous one and it seems more adaptable. The only problem that I've had was figuring out how to delete a quote box when I decided not to quote someone's post. . .I'm a little slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Lindy Posted January 8, 2016 Management Share Posted January 8, 2016 7 minutes ago, jackflash said: I think the new editor offers more functionality than the previous one and it seems more adaptable. The only problem that I've had was figuring out how to delete a quote box when I decided not to quote someone's post. . .I'm a little slow. "It's not you, it's me." Or rather, it's us. The quote function is incredibly frustrating for everyone and we're working on it -- expect it to be fixed within a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflash Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 28 minutes ago, Lindy said: "It's not you, it's me." Or rather, it's us. The quote function is incredibly frustrating for everyone and we're working on it -- expect it to be fixed within a month. Excellent. Although, I've already figured out this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexsplosions Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 @Lindy Your efforts do pay off. Embeds are working like a charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Explosion Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 If it's the entire box that you want to get rid of then move cursor over the quote and click the + sign thingy that appears....then press delete/backspace: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK-Varsh Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 @Lindy Thanks for bringing the topic back. Is there an option to allow for users to have the source option? This was pretty useful in IPB3 and not having it in IPS4 seemed strange, unless this is a security issue? I'd imagine that CKEditor parses only pure HTML+CSS so I couldn't imagine it being so. Perhaps have this as an option in the admin panel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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