media Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I have done a "real" time comparison on my board 3.4.8 to 4.1.4 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& my current live site (3.4.8): http://www.mysite.com/forum Application runing under this one ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Blog v2.6.3 Gallery v5.0.5 Videos System v3.0.3 Quotes System v2.0.0 Tracker v2.1.3 Calendar v3.3.4 Sudoku v1.5 Notices System v2.1.1 Hooks running under this one ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DevFuse Copyright Removal v1.0.0 -RAW33- Most Viewed Topics v1.0.0 (DDK33) Board Index Face v2.0.5 Enkidu Notices System v2.1.1 Gallery: Show albums in board index v1.0.0 Videos System (Post As Video) v3.0.2 Videos System (Sidebar Hook) v3.0.2 Status Updates v1.0.0 Ad Code Sidebar v1.0.0 Recent Blog Entries v2.5.2 Gallery Images v4.0.2 (SOS32) Advertisement on Image View v1.0.1 Mentions v1.0.4 Google Login v1.0.1 Gallery lightbox v1.0.0 &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& my test board (4.1.4) : http://www.mysite.com/test (Using exactly same database from 3.4.8 upgrade) Applications running under this one ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ System 4.1.4 Locked Forums 4.1.4 Açık Blog 4.1.4 Açık Gallery 4.1.4 Açık Videos 3.1.7 Açık Calendar 4.1.4 Açık Birthday Greeter 1.4.1 NO PLUGIN YET &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& And the result is (left is 3.4.8 - right is 4.1.4) Let's clear something up: I had run this test 20 times and this is what I got thru 4 days testing... 3.4.8 has tons of applications and hooks still running faster than 4.1.4 (I like 4.1.4) 4..1.4 has issues when it comes to speed... I am using this website to test: http://tools.pingdom.com/fpt/ As you see they are on the same server http://www.mysite.com/3.4.8 Your website faster than 61% http://www.mysite.com/4.1.4 Your website faster than 56% They are using same server, same database, same php, same, same, same And server info: Total processors: 16 - Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650 0 @ 2.00GHz 32 MB Ram 512 SSD and so on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 And this one is https://gtmetrix.com/ comparison Interesting .... ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ77 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 extra features come at a cost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudo Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Could you try on http://www.webpagetest.org/ as well? They have a block option in advanced settings you could use if you run any ads to directly compare as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 31 minutes ago, ZeroHour said: Could you try on http://www.webpagetest.org/ as well? They have a block option in advanced settings you could use if you run any ads to directly compare as well. Here you go: http://www.webpagetest.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudo Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Thanks Interesting that both first views had a similar first byte time but I dont know why v4 has a slower repeat view. I had actually noticed that on this site as well when testing with web page performance test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomAleold Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 4.1.4 is much slower then 3.4.8 if it have same hook working... (some app/hooks you mention not already work on 4.1.4) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisfreak Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 interesting comparation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtech Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I think 4.1.x is not slower than 3.4.x (except for the new "unread" content which is awful and quickly needs a fix). It features big speed improvements. These are the results for a 4.1.3 board of mine: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 As you see my 3.4.8 has tons of hooks and ads on it but still as fast as 4.1.4.1... Keep in mind: They are on the same sever using same resources e.t.c.... On 3.4.8 request number is high because of this hook by DDK33) Board Index Face v2.0.5... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtech Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I see no reason why 4.1.4.1 should run slower. Are you using apache? Have you optimized .htaccess and cache directives? Are you using opcache and memcached? They make a big difference. Then common sense always helps: keep it trim, simple and efficient: Do not overload your first page, as it is the "face" of the forum. Use a skin based only in custom CSS and not francy things that slow down your site. Keep your DOM numbers as low as possible. Use font awesome icons instead of images as much as possible Use a good enough server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 20 minutes ago, xtech said: I see no reason why 4.1.4.1 should run slower. Are you using apache? Have you optimized .htaccess and cache directives? Are you using opcache and memcached? They make a big difference. Then common sense always helps: keep it trim, simple and efficient: Do not overload your first page, as it is the "face" of the forum. Use a skin based only in custom CSS and not francy things that slow down your site. Keep your DOM numbers as low as possible. Use font awesome icons instead of images as much as possible Use a good enough server Well, 3.4.8 is heavily loaded... 4.1.4.1 does not have anything on it... Server is powerful... I am not using any caching on 4.1.4.1 yet (in the feature I will) btw, thank you for the suggestions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmad E. Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 So I took the time to run a test: IPS 3.4.8 (fresh install, no content, no memcached, only cache enabled is zend opcache, no cdn): IPS 4.1.4.1 (fresh install, no content, no memcached, only cache enabled is zend opcache, no cdn): My actual site running IPS 4.1.4.1 (memcached enabled, no cdn): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Forgot to give you guys size information... 98000 members 1 million posts Both 3.4.8 and 4.1.4.1 have same database... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmad E. Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Now that sucuri support http/2 I have run another test on my main site (sucuri's caching option is turned off): Running php 5.6.16, will post another when I install php7 tomorrow or so after they announce the GA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 7 hours ago, Ahmad E. said: Now that sucuri support http/2 I have run another test on my main site (sucuri's caching option is turned off): Running php 5.6.16, will post another when I install php7 tomorrow or so after they announce the GA. You guys have to give us your board size otherwise these tests do not mean anything.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmad E. Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 7 hours ago, media said: You guys have to give us your board size otherwise these tests do not mean anything.... It's rather a small site, 25k members and 41k posts. I'd like to test on bigger sites but I do not own bigger sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 2 hours ago, Ahmad E. said: It's rather a small site, 25k members and 41k posts. I'd like to test on bigger sites but I do not own bigger sites. Thank you for the info. Also would be very useful if you give us info abou any plugin or apps on the site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmad E. Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 16 minutes ago, media said: Thank you for the info. Also would be very useful if you give us info abou any plugin or apps on the site Apps: Portal Auto Welcome Commerce Pages Donations Forms Terms of Service two custom apps (not resource intensive) Plugins: Who Was Online Group Color on User Link File Scanner Group Name Indicator Live Chat While I'm on it, VPS info: 8GB RAM 4x 2.4GHz 1 Gbps HDD RAID10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 Thank you @Ahmad E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark007 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I also noticed that 4.1.17.1 is much slower than 3.4.8. It is significant. Which settings should be changed (system itself, php, htaccess ...) to speed it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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