SJ77 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I read about 4.1 coming out early October which obviously didn't happen. I get that it's because it's not ready, still in development etc but what I don't get is why I can't find any revised update or explanation. If due date is missed I want as a customer to have my expectations managed. I want to read "hey early October won't happen due to x reason and here is our revised time table." Don't just miss dates and pretend like we won't notice. Ugh. Unless I'm missing the clear and obvious information update. If so, can someone please link me to the posting so I can read? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel R Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 They announced it would be pushed back: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigf136 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 It's a shame that it's been pushed back and known bugs in 4.0.x are not being addressed until 4.1.x is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilihead Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 9 minutes ago, superj707 said: what I don't get is why I can't find any revised update or explanation. The last update was a forum post not a blog not sure why but they now state OCT/NOV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirill N Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 It was pushed back to late October but it looks like it'll get pushed back again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl M Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 11 minutes ago, superj707 said: I read about 4.1 coming out early October which obviously didn't happen. I get that it's because it's not ready, still in development etc but what I don't get is why I can't find any revised update or explanation. If due date is missed I want as a customer to have my expectations managed. I want to read "hey early October won't happen due to x reason and here is our revised time table." Don't just miss dates and pretend like we won't notice. Ugh. Unless I'm missing the clear and obvious information update. If so, can someone please link me to the posting so I can read? Thank you They wanted to hold off releasing it because things are going really well so decided to release it later. Weird I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shariq Ansari Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I think @craigf136 nailed it - the problem isn't that 4.1 is being pushed back, the problem is that fixes for 4.0.X get stalled out as well in the meantime. Every time there's a point release, I guess we're going to get into a situation where they can't split development resources between finalizing the new version & functionality while simultaneously addressing known issues with the current stable release... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikki Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 We've been working on clearing as many issues as possible before we release; we didn't hide that (see the link above to Charles' post). We're nearly ready, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblackelk Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 11 minutes ago, Rikki said: We've been working on clearing as many issues as possible before we release; we didn't hide that (see the link above to Charles' post). We're nearly ready, though. Pretty safe to get a jump start on creating a skin on the latest beta for when I upgrade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted October 23, 2015 Management Share Posted October 23, 2015 1 hour ago, superj707 said: I read about 4.1 coming out early October which obviously didn't happen. I get that it's because it's not ready, still in development etc but what I don't get is why I can't find any revised update or explanation. If due date is missed I want as a customer to have my expectations managed. I want to read "hey early October won't happen due to x reason and here is our revised time table." Don't just miss dates and pretend like we won't notice. Ugh. Unless I'm missing the clear and obvious information update. If so, can someone please link me to the posting so I can read? Thank you You should always check our blog for the latest updates. Everything you are asking about is there. No "ugh" or "pretend we won't notice" is implied. In fact we posted that entry before anyone said a word. Deep, cleansing breaths The two-week delay has allowed us to fix literally hundreds more bugs and do a lot of really nice performance improvements. So it's worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOFman Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 54 minutes ago, theblackelk said: Pretty safe to get a jump start on creating a skin on the latest beta for when I upgrade? There is not a ton to do to upgrade the themes to 4.1. Obviously there are differences that have to be addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 2 hours ago, theblackelk said: Pretty safe to get a jump start on creating a skin on the latest beta for when I upgrade? I have been without any real issues to express. They have been working rather well between beta stages. There are issues with 4.0 themes but they can be rectified fairly easy Nothing like 3.0 t.3.1 and up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblackelk Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 4 hours ago, WOFman said: There is not a ton to do to upgrade the themes to 4.1. Obviously there are differences that have to be addressed. 2 hours ago, Woodsman said: I have been without any real issues to express. They have been working rather well between beta stages. There are issues with 4.0 themes but they can be rectified fairly easy Nothing like 3.0 t.3.1 and up. Thanks, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ77 Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 6 hours ago, Charles said: You should always check our blog for the latest updates. Everything you are asking about is there. No "ugh" or "pretend we won't notice" is implied. In fact we posted that entry before anyone said a word. Deep, cleansing breaths The two-week delay has allowed us to fix literally hundreds more bugs and do a lot of really nice performance improvements. So it's worth it Thanks Charles. I figured you guys were fixing tons of stuff. I'm glad to hear it. I read the blog and didn't see the answer to what I'm asking, which is why I made this post. I'll look again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ77 Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 I now understand the confusion and will provide feedback to any who care. I use the release notes to read about 4.1 those notes link to a blog entry but there is nothing there about the delay. I had no idea there were other blog entries about this or that I was even supposed to look. I assumed all information that I need to know would be linked. Broken, disconnected information path left me confused. See screen shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VizionDev Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 5 hours ago, WOFman said: There is not a ton to do to upgrade the themes to 4.1. Obviously there are differences that have to be addressed. Majority of template files have been changed. If your design relies purely on CSS than you're correct, however if you have moved things around - all these changes will have to be redone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOFman Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 7 hours ago, RADStudios said: Majority of template files have been changed. If your design relies purely on CSS than you're correct, however if you have moved things around - all these changes will have to be redone. The ones I have created rely on css. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tAPir Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I hope they don't release just before Halloween so that Theme author's don't have to update their themes last minute whether they use .css or not. Just my $0.02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblackelk Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I don't think Halloween matters a whole lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tAPir Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 It doesn't unless you're a theme author that has produced a Halloween theme who suddenly has a load of customers clammering for an update. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admonstrator Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 13 hours ago, tAPir said: It doesn't unless you're a theme author that has produced a Halloween theme who suddenly has a load of customers clammering for an update. :) That's stupid. You can't install an update overnight. You have to do some tests and staging before you upgrade your prod-environment. So I think that if the update will release on 31th october you can't update before 15th november or later ... No need to be in such a hurry. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tAPir Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 OK, so I'm stupid. Never denied it LOL. I'll still get the PMs/Support Tickets and emails asking if the theme is going to be updated BEFORE Halloween if 4.1 is released before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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